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zbgeed
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iniating pinning
#2167983 - 12/08/03 01:33 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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My friends cases are completely white, theve been that way for about a week and a half now. How does he get them to start pinning? thank you
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John
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: zbgeed]
#2167991 - 12/08/03 01:36 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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cold shock, lower the temp a little, expose to light (preferably on the blue spectrum 12/12)
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: John]
#2168025 - 12/08/03 01:52 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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the amount of time doesn't really matter...i've had casings pin that were kept in the dark.
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zbgeed
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: llamaboy]
#2168046 - 12/08/03 02:03 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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he says he is going to test this by putting 2 cases in the fridge over night
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: zbgeed]
#2168114 - 12/08/03 02:50 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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totally white is not good for a casing layer (read up in the faq on overlay) as the hard dry surface is dead mycelium that cannot pin. post a pic and hopefully we can reassure you that it isn't overlay.
ten days is about right - any day now it should pin. the four ingredients to add are correct temps (70-80), high humidity (95%+), lots of air exchange (at least 3 fannings a day) and some light (enough to see your hand). a cold shock isn't needed for cubensis - hopefully they were incubated at higher temps, but anyway they can do the whole cycle at a steady 75 without any need for temp adjustment.
good luck
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zbgeed
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they are in jars right now. im kinda confused. what do you mean by casing layer?
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shirley knott
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: zbgeed]
#2168125 - 12/08/03 02:55 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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zbgeed said: My friends cases are completely white, theve been that way for about a week and a half now. How does he get them to start pinning? thank you
you said it.
you want them to pin, you wanna birth them. you don't need to wait for primordia in the jars.
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zbgeed
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im sorry i believe i used the wrong words. he has 8 jars that are completely white. can he go ahead and case them? or does he have to wait til pinning begins? thanks again you guys are awesome
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shirley knott
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: zbgeed]
#2168251 - 12/08/03 04:05 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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if they're all white plus a few days, they're ready for use. fruit as cakes (some wait for pins in the jar, but i never did) or crumble and case!
we are awesome, aren't we
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: zbgeed]
#2168252 - 12/08/03 04:06 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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you can case as soon as your jars are 100% done,waiting for pins is not needed.
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zbgeed
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: Hanky]
#2168286 - 12/08/03 04:21 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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next question. he has a 16 by 8 rubbermaid container. it's 6 inches deep. how many of the small jars i believe 1/4 pint? will he need to case it? he has 8.
Does he then crumble them up and cover them with wet vermculite?
then cover with plastic?
how long until they will be ready to harvest at this point?
he's really appreciating your help thanks again.
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shirley knott
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: zbgeed]
#2168417 - 12/08/03 07:16 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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you have eight 1/4pint jars? if you used the whole lot in a tub 16x8inches, you'd end up with a puny 1/2-1inch layer. better instead to use a container inside the tub. better for many reasons.
if i were you, and this was my first grow, i'd probably grow 2 as cakes, and make 2x 3-cake casings (in containers approx 5x5 and 3in deep). i'd aim to have substrate as deep as i could get it.
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shirley, if you have AIM please get to me at zbgeed. i have a few more questions for you, youre a great help.
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: zbgeed]
#2168441 - 12/08/03 07:32 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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zbgeed
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: ]
#2168460 - 12/08/03 07:47 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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is it possible to case just a 1/4pint jar at a time in a small container? what are the pros and cons of doing small casings Vs. large casings?
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: ]
#2168464 - 12/08/03 07:49 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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try pissing on your casings. that's what i do.
i sincerely hope that was a joke.
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: canid]
#2168466 - 12/08/03 07:51 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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i dont want any jokes, i just want some help
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canid
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: zbgeed]
#2168467 - 12/08/03 07:51 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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you can crumble and case a 1/4 pint cake if you'd like to, but you will have smaller/fewer fruits with smaller volumes of substrate.
if you'd like to find out wich teks are better, in waht ways and why, you should do a lot more reading.
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: canid]
#2168468 - 12/08/03 07:51 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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zbgeed
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: ]
#2168473 - 12/08/03 07:54 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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thank you
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shirley knott
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: ]
#2168532 - 12/08/03 08:30 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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asshat, you're pissing people off in several forums. get ready for (another) ban. i'd tell you this in pm, but you have disabled it.
goodbye, thanks for playing. now fuck off, mkay?
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zbgeed
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so is it a bad idea to have mini casings?
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shirley knott
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: zbgeed]
#2168551 - 12/08/03 08:45 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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not at all. it's just that deeper substrate tends to = bigger shrooms.
for example whereas
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Re: iniating pinning [Re: zbgeed]
#2168673 - 12/08/03 09:58 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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if you're going for yields, then minicasings of BRF/verm substrate will not be your best bet. a quarter pint minicasing will yield better than a quarter pint cake in proper conditions, but if you're going to case in the first place, i'd case at least a pint per.
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