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prismism


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Please, take a guess
#21677507 - 05/14/15 02:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've had this graft for a while now and it's finally beginning to take shape. The seedling was grown from this pack of seeds-

My hope was that this was a Saguaro, but after some google image searches it looks like it may be a barrel variety. What might you all think?
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Mostly_Harmless
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Re: Please, take a guess [Re: prismism]
#21677512 - 05/14/15 02:53 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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At first glance, if I hadn't read the list of possibilities, I'd have guessed at an Echinocereus sp.
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I'd say that you can safely guess that it's not Opuntia relative. But that could have been said for first instance when you sown seeds. Opuntia seeds are easily recognizable
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prismism


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Re: Please, take a guess [Re: Lemnaminor]
#21677574 - 05/14/15 03:56 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Appreciate your input, guys. Just found a few sources that have similar seedlings to mine that point towards Saguaro.
http://gypscoprotheres.blogspot.com/2012/07/saguaro-seedlings-carnegiea-gigantea.html
http://www.terraforums.com/forums/showthread.php/137615-Cacti-in-the-greenhouse
I might just have to wait a few years to find out for sure.
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Re: Please, take a guess [Re: prismism]
#21677793 - 05/14/15 06:07 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's a nice looking barrel cacti mane!! How old is it and what kind of soil was used?
I should try a cacti seed mix I hear they are usually easy growing variety.
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1234go
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Quote:
Mostly_Harmless said: At first glance, if I hadn't read the list of possibilities, I'd have guessed at an Echinocereus sp.
I agree with Mostly. Looks like it's taking the shape of Echinocereus Grusonii. (golden barrel)
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Re: Please, take a guess [Re: 1234go]
#21677844 - 05/14/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I planted some saguaro seeds two days ago. Cant wait!
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1234go
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kosmokratorshaman said: I planted some saguaro seeds two days ago. Cant wait!
When I first saw your username, my brain read it as "kosmokramershaman" 
Welcome by the way.
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Re: Please, take a guess [Re: 1234go]
#21678708 - 05/14/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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lmao, he is a character that Kramer
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Ok dude did you take a pic of the young seedling before you grafted it? If so I can tell you without a doubt if it's a saguaro.
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I can tell without looking at non-grafted pictures that it's not a saguaro. It's E. grusonii.
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Re: Please, take a guess [Re: karode13]
#21681183 - 05/14/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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karode13 said: I can tell without looking at non-grafted pictures that it's not a saguaro. It's E. grusonii.

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Re: Please, take a guess [Re: cowsRmeat]
#21681255 - 05/14/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sorry karode I just enlarged the photo "takes forever with my pc" yea that's not the form for how saguaros grow
Sorry I should have taken the time first off to check it out before posting.
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prismism


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Thanks for the help you guys. Looks like my suspicion was correct. I have another seedling that came from this mixed packet who's identity is still unknown.
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Re: Please, take a guess [Re: prismism]
#21681459 - 05/15/15 12:59 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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That one looks a bit Ferocactus?
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Quote:
Mostly_Harmless said: That one looks a bit Ferocactus?
It's a possibility now that you mention it.
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prismism


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Re: Please, take a guess [Re: karode13]
#22366043 - 10/11/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Back with an update. I appreciate everyone's help to identify this plant, but I still haven't given up hope that it may be a Saguaro. When google image searching for Saguaro seedlings I keep seeing plants with the same amount of spines and color as mine. Here is my plant-

Here are supposed Saguaro seedling images I've found using a quick image search-



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Re: Please, take a guess [Re: prismism]
#22366925 - 10/12/15 07:29 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I hope you don't mind but this may help you some. These are 2 pics of my Saguaro graft.

I say it's a saguaro because it comes from a bag of seed I got labeled Carnegiea gigantean although I received them in a trade awhile back I do believe they were what he labeled them.
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prismism


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I don't mind at all. Thank you for posting your photos, they only further lead me to believe that my scion is in fact Carnegiea gigantea as well.
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prismism


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Re: Please, take a guess [Re: prismism] 2
#25409721 - 08/24/18 10:50 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Back after two years with an update on this cactus. It is growing very slowly. I am now fully convinced it is Saguaro.

Compared with google image searches of young saguaro seedlings.


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Re: Please, take a guess [Re: prismism]
#25410316 - 08/24/18 03:52 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hell yeah buddy nice sag.
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I don't think that is a Saguaro. The spines at the growth tip emerge a yellow golden color on Saguaros. Red spines emerging at the tip is characteristic of Pachycereus pringlei. That color difference is the single most important way to differentiate young specimens of those two species. Here is a young Saguaro for comparison (photo taken just now at night with flash).
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