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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Ncogneato]
    #21673188 - 05/13/15 02:57 AM (9 years, 7 days ago)

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I'm sorry. Did you say you fucked your friends and suppressed the memory of it? Are these people still your friends?




And more importantly, was it any good?


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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #21673458 - 05/13/15 05:56 AM (9 years, 7 days ago)

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You did 60g fresh mushrooms, this causes fucked up shit to happen.
Maybe ask Asante in this subforum: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/229
He knows way more about this stuff then most people here.



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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: teamkiller]
    #21673463 - 05/13/15 05:57 AM (9 years, 7 days ago)

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Artex]
    #21674540 - 05/13/15 12:54 PM (9 years, 7 days ago)

Those commercials are corny as can be...not funny at all. All they ever made me want to do is change the channel. Might've been a funny joke if I was 10

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21676643 - 05/13/15 09:25 PM (9 years, 6 days ago)

I can count on both hands how many women I've been with.  I know their first and last names.  I got the distinct impression that I'd fucked close friends at a party sometime in the last 15 years or so, like an orgy.  What really wasn't helpful was that I have 2 female friends that claim there are pictures of me in a dress with cleavage.  I'm okay with this, except that I have absolutely no recollection of the event.  Now, I've been to orgies, but it was always a very safe environment and I was sober, and I did not have sex with anyone (it's fun to watch, okay?).  What it felt like was some... thing, like a parasite had been riding along in my consciousness and taking over when, well, the fun shit happened and feeding off of that energy.

The involuntary movement I experienced was in reverse at first, for like 30 minutes.  I was completely aware and the cats were freaked out.  I could force my body to stop, but my anxiety and muscle pain peaked when I did so.  It was very much like my head was sitting on a different body.  I could feel my body, but the things I was doing were not thing I ever remember doing with my body.

The overall impression I got, and I know how incredibly contrived and stupid this sounds, is that something either trans-dimensional or alien was able to ride along and do this, but he/she/it was not supposed to be doing this and was exiting because what the shrooms do to the mind cause it.  I had images of friends and the impression that those friends also had riders.

Another impression I got was that the entity had left files explaining and a video apology for how it's presence physically harmed me (years of lethargy and lack of focus).  I must say my mind feels much clearer today, but I can't find any files on my computer.  I do have a flash drive that I can no longer access.  Can't open it, can't format it, but I can see it on the computer.  It really makes me wonder.

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #21676656 - 05/13/15 09:27 PM (9 years, 6 days ago)

They are indeed.  Close friends and all married now.  We have a large circle of friends (about 50) that have all been pretty close for the last 20 years or so.

And shit, from the way my body was moving, I was a whoring bastard.  Must have been good.

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: MichAnon.ael]
    #21676674 - 05/13/15 09:30 PM (9 years, 6 days ago)

I will take it as a gift regardless.  But if what I experienced was in any way real, I need to find the truth.  If it was all in my head and medically explainable, I'll take that as well.  But psychologically, I'd really like to know what it all means if it wasn't a rider.  I must be way more repressed than I thought I was.

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: ak47myth]
    #21676688 - 05/13/15 09:32 PM (9 years, 6 days ago)

I would like to try DMT someday, but I feel like I'm getting pretty close to that experience with shrooms.

I've also found that I much prefer to do shrooms alone.  Thank the gods my gf and I don't have the same schedules. 

And I feel really good after this experience.  Not the same sort of malaise and feeling of loss after my ego death.  I wanted that to last forever!

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Artex]
    #21676696 - 05/13/15 09:34 PM (9 years, 6 days ago)

That is pretty funny.  I was amused at the time but very concerned about the implications if those were muscle memories.

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Artex]
    #21676705 - 05/13/15 09:35 PM (9 years, 6 days ago)



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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Artex]
    #21676710 - 05/13/15 09:36 PM (9 years, 6 days ago)

Absolutely.

I haven't had a bad trip yet (as I define it, it would be a fear saturated trip).  I've had lame trips, but not bad ones.

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Artex]
    #21676752 - 05/13/15 09:42 PM (9 years, 6 days ago)

Science can't answer the question (yet).  What I needed to know was if anyone else experienced anything similar.

The experience is absolutely what counts.  I don't generally hallucinate on shrooms, but that may change as the duloxetine clears my system.  Rather, I should say that I don't hallucinate unless I take at least 1/8 and then smoke a large bowl at the two hour mark, at which point I drop into trance and float away.  When I had my ego death, it lasted maybe 20 minutes tops.  My body was doing it's own thing for about 2 hours this time and I was genuinely worn out when it was through.

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Artex]
    #21676761 - 05/13/15 09:43 PM (9 years, 6 days ago)

If you could point me at some of these historical anecdotes I'd really appreciate it.  There's a lot of opportunistic metaphysics assholes out there and it's hard to google this shit (and I consider myself a google master).

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Artex]
    #21676784 - 05/13/15 09:48 PM (9 years, 6 days ago)

So, impressions of this possible entity were that it fed off of positive energy but shut off my memory of it because the "positive" things it was participating in were way out of my character, things that I would not consciously engage in because of my introverted nature.

My friend has also done a lot of shrooms and is now a professional in her late 40s.  I just wanted to know if she knew of any possible medical explanations.  She did, but did not discount that there are many things we do not and cannot understand.

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Artex]
    #21676796 - 05/13/15 09:50 PM (9 years, 6 days ago)

:tongue2:
My philosophy is that if my stomach can handle it, there's no such thing as too many shrooms.

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21676821 - 05/13/15 09:54 PM (9 years, 6 days ago)

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I have never really felt possessed like that.  It gets pretty weird though.  Especially when you're tripping a sensation can just feel like something it isn't.  I doubt that you were doing a 90s dance but I can believe that is how it felt.  How can you know it is a dance routine if you are not a 90s dancer anyway?

I don't know what you mean really by a rider.  If you don't feel like that when you don't take 60g I think you really don't have to worry about being possessed. 

As to fucking friends and repressing memories.  That is pretty normal with things that you feel conflicted or uncomfortable about.  That's a strange thing to say though.  You are not sure if you fucked them or not?  That would worry me a bit I guess but maybe I am misunderstanding you.




I can describe it as:
A. Replaying physical movements my muscles may have experienced once.
B. Being used as a meat puppet.

By rider, I mean an entity riding along in my subconscious.  If I believe that we are all one consciousness, this felt like an outside consciousness along for the ride.

Repression:  I was raised Catholic.  If these events I suspect happened, it would have been at a point in my early twenties when I would have been incredibly ashamed of them.

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Artex]
    #21676844 - 05/13/15 09:59 PM (9 years, 6 days ago)

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I can count on both hands how many women I've been with.  I know their first and last names.  I got the distinct impression that I'd fucked close friends at a party sometime in the last 15 years or so, like an orgy.  What really wasn't helpful was that I have 2 female friends that claim there are pictures of me in a dress with cleavage.  I'm okay with this, except that I have absolutely no recollection of the event.  Now, I've been to orgies, but it was always a very safe environment and I was sober, and I did not have sex with anyone (it's fun to watch, okay?).  What it felt like was some... thing, like a parasite had been riding along in my consciousness and taking over when, well, the fun shit happened and feeding off of that energy.

The involuntary movement I experienced was in reverse at first, for like 30 minutes.  I was completely aware and the cats were freaked out.  I could force my body to stop, but my anxiety and muscle pain peaked when I did so.  It was very much like my head was sitting on a different body.  I could feel my body, but the things I was doing were not thing I ever remember doing with my body.

The overall impression I got, and I know how incredibly contrived and stupid this sounds, is that something either trans-dimensional or alien was able to ride along and do this, but he/she/it was not supposed to be doing this and was exiting because what the shrooms do to the mind cause it.  I had images of friends and the impression that those friends also had riders.

Another impression I got was that the entity had left files explaining and a video apology for how it's presence physically harmed me (years of lethargy and lack of focus).  I must say my mind feels much clearer today, but I can't find any files on my computer.  I do have a flash drive that I can no longer access.  Can't open it, can't format it, but I can see it on the computer.  It really makes me wonder.




It doesn't sound stupid, but I don't think it is usually productive to really put alot of weight into these sorts of beliefs.  Mushrooms do some weird things, and even if I were to indulge in my own supernatural beliefs I would say that the tendency for experiences like this is to leave people confused and alienated in life.  It is fascinating and awesome if not a bit scary, but you've got to take a humble attitude and realize that you are just a person living in the real world. 

If you put alot of faith into these things, it can totally change your behavior and even your core personality, but that is almost never a good thing.  Take it easy on the mushrooms and pursue some nice relaxing healthy things you enjoy for a bit.  Take your rider for a ride :grin:

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Artex]
    #21685819 - 05/16/15 03:23 AM (9 years, 4 days ago)

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The overall impression I got, and I know how incredibly contrived and stupid this sounds, is that something either trans-dimensional or alien was able to ride along and do this, but he/she/it was not supposed to be doing this and was exiting because what the shrooms do to the mind cause it.  I had images of friends and the impression that those friends also had riders.





I wish I could talk to you in person... you'd love to hear some of the shit I've experienced because it would hit so close to home with what you're saying. If you go thru my posts you can find many where I talk about the "archons" or what you call riders. Basically it's a sadistic parasitic intergalactic virus that's been going on for many many years. They can possess people and I firmly believe it has so much to do with how people go insane. In this fucked op culture people look down and try to "fix" the crazy people who are actually people who have seen beyond the normal scopes of consciousness. Whereas in shamanic cultures these people are treated completely different.

I'm on acid myself right now, tail end of it, and I could go on for days about this topic and shit but I just wish we could just physically chill and discuss life and reality. :stoned: I feel like a big part of my incarnation here on this earth is to awaken people to the alien presence that is here... to transcend the illusion of reality that they have created for many.

Let's just say I started experiencing shit that was out of this world, and by chance I stumbled upon the world of Gnosticism. Since ancient times Gnostics have had contact with these beings which seek to trick and confuse..


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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Forest Sprite]
    #21685827 - 05/16/15 03:30 AM (9 years, 4 days ago)

That said... I'm not trying to take away from the fact that there are subconscious things going on in regards to your thoughts about that experience with your friends you possibly had. The different nooks and crannies of the subconscious mind have a big play in how we see our worlds... but that doesn't mean that shit can't get even crazier with the addition of entities.

These beings will play with the shit you have hidden from yourself in your mind.


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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Artex]
    #21685901 - 05/16/15 04:40 AM (9 years, 4 days ago)

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This really happened and is still happening and I need a DM from anyone who has ever experienced anything similar whether on shrooms, DMT, muscle relaxers, beanies, poppers, wtfever.  I don't care.  If this has happened please tell me I have not lost my fucking mind. I am not a troll.  I'm kind of frightened of the implications.

I am a HARDCORE skeptic when it comes to possession, aliens, god, what have you.

However... believing that we are all one consciousness experiencing our self subjectively.

I took about 60g fresh around 1pm CST today.  I was settling in for a really groovy time around 3pm, having just smoked a bud.  Was starting to trip hard and stretching because I was feeling really anxious and laying flat and stretching my chronically knotted shoulder because that made the anxiety dissipate. 

Here's where it gets really fucking weird.
Muscle relaxation: Full
The knots were working themselves out as I experienced a Gift; full realization of how to align my body and work out all my knots.  I was in the weirdest fucking positions that frankly felt like they could be dangerous if I went fully into trance while in one (mostly involving the angle of my neck).
Then my knots felt like they were "unwinding" in a very specific and mostly involuntary manner.
Then, while pretty well zoning my whole body started to unwind.  Still laying on the floor, my large muscle groups began to twitch really hard and I was dancing some style of dance that was popular when I was in middle school back in the early nineties. 
I don't dance.  This was a dance routine. 
Still, my muscles ached if I tried to stop it.  I let it go, completely cognizant, starting to come down, watching my frightened cats and telling them. "I don't know what the fuck is going on!"
Whatever it is, almost all of my pain and anxiety (which I usually have anyway) is gone as I'm coming down completely now. I have a clarity in not just my thinking, but my hearing and sight focus are better.

I feel like I had a rider.

Now I've spoken with a close friend who has her Master's in psychology and has also done her share of shrooms.  She said it is possible that repressed memories something something cross-firing with the lymbic region could cause these movements. 

But I felt like I had a rider who was experiencing events in my place and preventing me from consciously experiencing or remembering them.

I think I may have fucked a few friends (with my penis, not situationally) over the years and repressed the memories.  I think it's been happening since I was in middle school.

Has ANYONE has similar experiences?  Does anyone genuinely believe they may have been possessed or had a ride-along and thinks that sounds completely insane? 

It freaked me out because I just let it happen to see what my body was doing to show me.  And the gestures my left hand was making while the left side of my jaw formed half of words silently looked like an apology.





You werent being ridden, you where having an upsurge of repressed memories from around that time. After a while, if you have the balls, go back in, perhaps on a lower dose. Have a friend be your sitter. Passively observing you, not interacting, preventing you from harming yourself.

This isnt a spirit riding you, its a ghost of the past haunting you. Something happened around that time that needs its story told.

Once the story is out, it will disappear forever.

I know supernaturally that you were not being ridden, instead the subconscious manifested itself.


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