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No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms
#21675636 - 05/13/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Boulder DA: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms
Shooting falls under Colorado's 'make my day' law, prosecutor says
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The Boulder County District Attorney's Office will not file charges against the Boulder man who shot and killed a University of Colorado student who broke into the man's house on Pima Court and attacked the resident last week.
Robert Zamora, 19, reportedly broke into 98 Pima Court around 8:40 p.m. May 4 and was subsequently shot and killed by a resident in the house, Jim McCain.
District Attorney Stan Garnett today announced he has decided not to charge McCain in the case, citing Colorado's "make my day" law.
Garnett also revealed that Zamora is suspected of being under the influence of one or more drugs, specifically telling the Daily Camera that he is believed to have used psilocybin or "psychedelic" mushrooms.
"At 98 Pima Court, Mr. Zamora entered the home forcefully and without permission and then aggressively attacked the homeowner," Garnett said in a statement. "The facts and evidence in this case, which have been carefully and thoroughly investigated by the Boulder Police Department, fit the type of circumstance to which the 'make my day' law applies and the homeowner would also have been justified in his actions under Colorado self-defense law.
"Therefore, there will be no criminal charges filed against the homeowner in this case."
Colorado's "make my day" law allows homeowners to use deadly force if a person enters their residence uninvited and either has committed a crime other than trespassing in the residence or intends to.
Garnett also said in his statement that Zamora may have been under the influence of psilocybin mushrooms at the time of the break-in.
"Final toxicology results from the autopsy are pending, but Mr. Zamora was reportedly under the influence of at least one drug at the time of this incident," Garnett said.
According to Boulder police, Zamora had attempted to enter several other homes in the area, banging on doors and windows, before banging on a rear window of 98 Pima Court, prompting McCain -- who was in the house with a woman -- to grab a gun while a woman in the home called 911.
Police said Zamora then broke the glass storm door and burst in through the front door. Zamora attacked McCain causing the two to fall to the ground and begin fighting, according to police.
McCain fired a single shot from a handgun, hitting Zamora in the chest and killing him.
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: Cognitive_Shift] 1
#21675698 - 05/13/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hooray! I don't care what the circumstances, everyone should have the right to defend their home as much as they have the right to breathe. Under the influence or not that kid lost his human rights when he stole the rights of the homeowner.
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: ryoung0588] 1
#21675707 - 05/13/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not sure what they mean when the young kid began "fighting with the home owner." On the other hand if someone comes into my house in the middle of the night breaking through my windows i'm going to shoot whether he is fighting me or not.
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#21675758 - 05/13/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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exactly.
you break into my home in the middle of the night. lead is coming at you with a quickness.
good for the attorney to figure it out.
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: rackem]
#21676167 - 05/13/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Had to be mushrooms of course. Why cant people get a grip on themselves? I never mix substances and rarely trip alone unless on low dose natural or non-research chems. Sad for the guy and his family but of course the homeowner did what he had to do. RIP crazy guy...
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: BoomBoom] 1
#21676178 - 05/13/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think this person was most likely unstable before taking any substances. It's an easier narrative to understand Man + Drugs = Violence rather than telling his life story and background. You also have to remember much of this is just click-bait. News is about attracting viewers to run a business, not providing stories about what's happening in the world.
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#21676406 - 05/13/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Makes sense to me once someone steps on to your own piece of property the rules no longer apply.
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: Laughingcowwa]
#21676456 - 05/13/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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so dumb just bad phoney publicity probably on some new bath salts
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: Konyap]
#21676723 - 05/13/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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One of my biggest fears while tripping is thought, what if im tripping so hard that i think i left and returned to my house, but in reality i accidentally walked into someone else's house, and i won't realize it till i wake up in the morning.
To really sum up my biggest tripping fear, i always wonder what if i only think im doing X, when really im so fried im really doing Y. (And then i always substitute y for the most fucked up thing my fried mind can conjure up)
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#21676985 - 05/13/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I never have fears of doing anything physically dangerous tripping, my fear is losing my mind.
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#21676994 - 05/13/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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if you fear that then your using the wrong mushroom
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: Konyap]
#21676997 - 05/13/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mushrooms make you violent and run around? I would be terrified of doing anything other then sitting down and trying to act like i'm not one the verge of insanity.
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#21677295 - 05/14/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Kids with little to no knowledge on the substances they take and access to cheap big bags of fun gi's can be a dangerous thing
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: alised] 1
#21679198 - 05/14/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am more scared of my action when I drink. That's why I stopped. In right set&settings for me there is nothing to worry about when tripping. Disclaimer: That may not apply to everyone of course. Be safe doing whatever you do in life.
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: Capt. Stern] 1
#21679250 - 05/14/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I doubt he was on psychedelic mushrooms. I'm not buying it until I see a toxicology report. "Make my day law" lol couldn't they just call it the right to defend law. I doubt it makes anyone's day to have to kill an intruder and deal with a police investigation.
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: T-Funkadelic]
#21680053 - 05/14/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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T-Funkadelic said: I doubt he was on psychedelic mushrooms. I'm not buying it until I see a toxicology report. "Make my day law" lol couldn't they just call it the right to defend law. I doubt it makes anyone's day to have to kill an intruder and deal with a police investigation.
What reason do you have to doubt that he was on mushrooms?
But yeah, as soon as I read the name of that law I thought that was super fucked up. I am a massive supporter of self defense but if killing an intruder makes your day then you are a sick fuck.
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: LSDylan]
#21680063 - 05/14/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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the thrill of shooting a gun comes from the gun itself it's not like using a knife
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: LSDylan]
#21680209 - 05/14/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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LSDylan said:
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T-Funkadelic said: /i] I doubt he was on psychedelic mushrooms. I'm not buying it until I see a toxicology report. "Make my day law" lol couldn't they just call it the right to defend law. I doubt it makes anyone's day to have to kill an intruder and deal with a police investigation.
What reason do you have to doubt that he was on mushrooms?
But yeah, as soon as I read the name of that law I thought that was super fucked up. I am a massive supporter of self defense but if killing an intruder makes your day then you are a sick fuck.
The fact that there is a war on drugs and you have a statement from District Attorney Stan Garnett which is not a fact without a toxicology report from the medical examiner.
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: ryoung0588]
#21681436 - 05/15/15 12:43 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Capt. Stern said: I am more scared of my action when I drink. That's why I stopped.
This.
Make alcohol illegal, legalize shrooms! 
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ryoung0588 said: Hooray! I don't care what the circumstances, everyone should have the right to defend their home as much as they have the right to breathe. Under the influence or not that kid lost his human rights when he stole the rights of the homeowner.
This is probably the dumbest shit I've ever read on the shroomery.
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: zZZz]
#21681515 - 05/15/15 01:30 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zZZz said:
Make alcohol illegal, legalize shrooms! 
We tried making alcohol illegal after WW1. It didn't work out so well.
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ryoung0588 said: Hooray! I don't care what the circumstances, everyone should have the right to defend their home as much as they have the right to breathe. Under the influence or not that kid lost his human rights when he stole the rights of the homeowner.
This is probably the dumbest shit I've ever read on the shroomery.
Really? Why do you say that?
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#21683578 - 05/15/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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That really is fucked up that it's called the "make my day" law, as if people would just love to fucking kill another person, like they've been waiting for that opportunity all their lives. That said, I have rifle in my bedroom, it's for hunting, but if someone would try to break in I'd be shooting them in the leg or something.. wouldn't wanna kill a person unless they were trying to cause harm to me or a loved one. Then it's game on.
But this story really reminds me of what my friend did years ago... he took way too much acid for himself, more than he could handle, about 12 hits or so. He ended up walking down some traintracks to a nearby town carrying a 3 foot bong. He heard music coming from a house and just casually walked into it not thinking anything of it. Well the homeowner didn't shoot him, he's lucky as fuck for that. Most people would have. But the guy called police but in the meantime talked to my friend and shit, but it was obvious my friend was wayy out of it and needed some guidance or something. So the cops got him, took his bong, locked him up for hours to the wall and bitch at him and shit then eventually his parents came and got him.
He never really was all there I think. All that acid at once just brought it out of him. He's never truly been the same since. But he indeed did get lucky not to get shot that day....
Whether or not the person in the story was on mushrooms or not, idk, but it is actually very possible this would happen while tripping considering what my friend did. That said, I've tripped so goddamn hard and have never thought about wondering around public and going into some random house.
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: Forest Sprite]
#21685278 - 05/15/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Like just imagine it. You go out on the nature hike with your friends. Laugh your asses off, have a typical trip and go home to your bed afterwards. You lay down and go to sleep. THEN BAM! WAKE UP you are in a totally different house. Wtf do you even do?
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: Forest Sprite]
#21693628 - 05/18/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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You're absolutely correct. Because of our collective disconnection from nature and things like hunting and raising our own plants and animals for food...and the average consumer's daily diet of fear from the media, there are plenty of people out there who can't hardly wait for an excuse to blast someone to smithereens.
However, also because of general dissociation, those people aren't anticipating the psycho-spiritual repercussions that would come with taking a life.
That said, if I had a gun and an intruder forced his/her way into my home, I would threaten to shoot and if they still persisted I would probably also try to aim for the legs.
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: dwnlw2slw]
#21693752 - 05/18/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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The kid was an idiot and broke in to someone's house and got killed. Who gives a fuck? Another dead idiot is something we should be celebrating. Honestly I wish it would happen more often!
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Re: No charges in home-invasion killing; intruder likely on mushrooms [Re: Big Bear]
#21697274 - 05/19/15 06:19 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Drink another beer you miserable alcoholic.
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