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musiclover420
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: 3waesz]
#21678865 - 05/14/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Has this "friend" tried harmalas before or was that the first time?
Everyone reacts differently so unless they have tried rue multiple times and only had nausea after eating bread I would say it is much more likely the harmalas just made him/her nauseous.
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: musiclover420]
#21678997 - 05/14/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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If nausea is the only real danger, I may just go for it. But LSA already makes me want to barf, so it might be too much even for me to stomach :p
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: ApexNightmare]
#21679003 - 05/14/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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The only real danger if you are being cautious and responsible*
Combining drugs in general can always be dangerous, but harmalas are made for tryptamines and I have heard interesting things about them and lysergamides.
Standardized extracts simplify things becouse you can weigh up a specific dose.
I have never had any nausea from a dose of 150-200 mg of harmalas, 250+ and I am pretty likely to purge though.
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: musiclover420]
#21679012 - 05/14/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: The only real danger if you are being cautious and responsible*
Combining drugs in general can always be dangerous, but harmalas are made for tryptamines and I have heard interesting things about them and lysergamides.
Standardized extracts simplify things becouse you can weigh up a specific dose.
I have never had any nausea from a dose of 150-200 mg of harmalas, 250+ and I am pretty likely to purge though.
You guys are making me all nervous and whatnot :p I'll let you know what I end up doing. I have to prepare my MG seeds and do another DMT extraction tonight. The rue is up in the air. Last time I did 1200 seeds by themselves, it was more than enough!
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: ApexNightmare]
#21679052 - 05/14/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just trying to give you proper warnings.
Since what you have planned out will already be more then enough if you are nervous I say hold off on the rue, and try some pharma some time with it 
50mg of demetri on a nice rue dose may have you re evaluating smoking it
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: musiclover420]
#21679109 - 05/14/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: Just trying to give you proper warnings.
Since what you have planned out will already be more then enough if you are nervous I say hold off on the rue, and try some pharma some time with it 
50mg of demetri on a nice rue dose may have you re evaluating smoking it 
I've been meaning to try pharma. Hm... more thoughts haha. LSA + pharma = ???
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: ApexNightmare]
#21679143 - 05/14/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I personally wouldn't want to try it. Maybe after trying harmalas more on their own, and combined with both psychs individually.
For some reason I thought you were talking about LSD, A tends to be more mellow and sedating for me so that would be pretty great.
D tends to be more physical/ mentally stimulating for me and would distract from the experience I think.
They would no doubt compete over some receptors though and I feel like it would not be as smooth as some pure pharma in that sense.
If you try it let me know how it goes! Same with pharma, always interested to hear peoples experiences around it.
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: musiclover420]
#21679156 - 05/14/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: I personally wouldn't want to try it. Maybe after trying harmalas more on their own, and combined with both psychs individually.
For some reason I thought you were talking about LSD, A tends to be more mellow and sedating for me so that would be pretty great.
D tends to be more physical/ mentally stimulating for me and would distract from the experience I think.
They would no doubt compete over some receptors though and I feel like it would not be as smooth as some pure pharma in that sense.
If you try it let me know how it goes! Same with pharma, always interested to hear peoples experiences around it.
I'm seriously debating doing both or just Pharma. If I wanted to do say 200mg. Would 3.5g rue be enough for that?
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: ApexNightmare]
#21679170 - 05/14/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I personally would recommend starting low. 50mg can be plenty for some people, 200mg sounds like it could be very intense. Though it really depends on body chemistry.
3.5 grams of rue should be plenty though I would highly recommend looking into pure extracts. The potency can vary so much in the seeds, not to mention dyes and other unpleasant things.
3-4 grams should be enough that even if the seeds aren't very potent you will still get enough.
You can always eat more/ or smoke more on top of it so I would definitely recommend starting low if you go that route
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: musiclover420]
#21679214 - 05/14/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: I personally would recommend starting low. 50mg can be plenty for some people, 200mg sounds like it could be very intense. Though it really depends on body chemistry.
3.5 grams of rue should be plenty though I would highly recommend looking into pure extracts. The potency can vary so much in the seeds, not to mention dyes and other unpleasant things.
3-4 grams should be enough that even if the seeds aren't very potent you will still get enough.
You can always eat more/ or smoke more on top of it so I would definitely recommend starting low if you go that route 
I've read a little into extracting rue, but that just seems like a lot to learn/buy when I can just be a little nauseous and just boil it. I'll have to just order the extract next time instead of seeds. I'm not doing anymore extracting. DMT is annoying enough haha.
I will keep everyone posted. Maybe 800 MG and 150mg pharma/3.5g rue. That might be my route if I choose to do both.
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: ApexNightmare]
#21679233 - 05/14/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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That would no doubt be very intense, but I guess that is what you are going for 
I have seen 50mg equate to around 1/8th of good cubes to people before, though I am sure it can vary a lot.
I actually started my first rue extraction last night, everything's pretty damn simple so far. Now I just need to base, then collect and wash/ recrystallize.
You can get them for relatively cheap online anyways though like you said, that has kept me from making any myself.
I still have like 5-8 grams of harmine/harmaline mix, pure harmine, and some THH harmine/aline caapi extract
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: musiclover420]
#21679251 - 05/14/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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This will be my very first time taking any MAOI. Let's how all goes well andI don't spew all over the place.
One last question. I have no capsules to put my DMT crystal into. Can I just parachute it down in a folded paper towel? Or just mix it in a shot or something?
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21679254 - 05/14/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: So who is 0797547907684345?
Im confused.
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: ShroomyBudz]
#21679276 - 05/14/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: So who is 0797547907684345?
Im confused.

I only know him as the numbers haha.
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: ApexNightmare]
#21679291 - 05/14/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe take 2.5 or 3 grams then. Though from what I have read about morning glory those alone can cause some spewage 
Unless the taste bothers you you can just gum it/ swallow it too. Some stuff has a more pronounced unpleasant taste than others, so taking in a shot could be smart.
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: ApexNightmare]
#21679356 - 05/14/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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ApexNightmare said:
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07912043628345122 said:
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LogicaL Chaos said: So who is 0797547907684345?
Im confused.

I only know him as the numbers haha.
Decided to just become another numerical script of energy on the interwebs ..
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: ShroomyBudz]
#21679700 - 05/14/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, still completely confused.
hmmm....maybe we are all just numbers within the cyclical Grand Cosmos that is our Universe (Multiverse?).
I can always check out your ratings
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: musiclover420]
#21679733 - 05/14/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: Maybe take 2.5 or 3 grams then. Though from what I have read about morning glory those alone can cause some spewage 
Unless the taste bothers you you can just gum it/ swallow it too. Some stuff has a more pronounced unpleasant taste than others, so taking in a shot could be smart.

Do you think it will be an issue to mix it with a shot of alcohol? Or should I use juice or just water?
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: ApexNightmare]
#21679758 - 05/14/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Alcohol is one of the most important things to avoid with maoi's... A very minute amount is not going to be a problem but who knows how much exactly is too much?
A shot is almost certainly too much, at least I wouldn't risk it. Especially considering you can't tell how potent your seeds are, 3 grams could be a solid maoi dose.
If you want to drink at all I would wait to try it another night perhaps.
If the shot is just to get stuff down use water or juice
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Re: Four people, four different psychedelics + Rue and MJ. [Re: musiclover420]
#21679764 - 05/14/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: Yeah Bill, go back to the PUB where you belong 
whoaaa hold your horses there, bud. That was mean seeing as how I was joking around with OP
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