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    #21674110 - 05/13/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I've been doing days and days of research before I start my first grow this week and just have a few questions before I get started.

I want to keep this grow pretty simple seeing as it is my my first time and am  basing my tek mostly on this one posted here:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40988

Instead of making and sterilizing my own substrate I figured I'd just buy a pre-sterilized substrate and inoculate using this as the substrate:

http://out-grow.com/mushroom-growing-substrates-c-4/4-quart-jars-of-grain-spawn-with-self-healing-injectors-p-22.html

After full colonization is where I'm getting a little fuzzy on how I best want to fruit (again, I'm trying to make it as simple as possible so I don't mess it up). My idea is to take the colonized cakes, dunk&roll them using vermiculite, and then placing the cakes back into the jars. I'd then store the jars in a filter bag and commence the fruiting:

http://out-grow.com/mushroom-grow-bags-c-13/large-mushroom-grow-bags-with-02-181m-filter-p-121.html

The only problem is I've never seen anyone with a tek where they are fruiting the cakes directly out of the jars that they colonized from. Would this pose any problems that anyone can forsee? Is there something I'm missing here? Any advice and tips appreciated.


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Re: Growing mushrooms directly out of an inoculated jar [Re: AdventurousAndy]
    #21674128 - 05/13/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Where to begin... take an hour or 2 and make a shotgun fruiting chamber... bags won't cut it like a real chamber would.

If you're going to take them out and dunk and roll.. why are you going to put them back in jars? Either leave them and case them or straight dunk and roll and put into fruiting. With them not in jars you have more surface area to fruit from too.


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Re: Growing mushrooms directly out of an inoculated jar [Re: AdventurousAndy]
    #21674135 - 05/13/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)




there's no tek because you just do it.


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Re: Growing mushrooms directly out of an inoculated jar [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21674150 - 05/13/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Mad Season, bodhisatta just glocked you with them pics.


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Re: Growing mushrooms directly out of an inoculated jar [Re: Mad Season]
    #21674153 - 05/13/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the quick reply.

I guess my intention here is not a super huge yield (just enough for a tripp by myself) but thought that the shotgun chamber would be too high maintenance. Would the filter bag seriously stunt the growth of fruiting or just hurt the yield?


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Re: Growing mushrooms directly out of an inoculated jar [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21674155 - 05/13/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

This is exactly the response I was looking for. Thank YOU!


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Re: Growing mushrooms directly out of an inoculated jar [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21674164 - 05/13/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Mad Season, bodhisatta just glocked you with them pics.



Glocked me with pics? I didn't say he couldn't do it. Just said why pull the jars out to dunk and roll and put them back? If they're out just leave them out and fruit them. If they're in a jar use a casing..

Also told him to use a sgfc cause in my experience bags just don't work.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21168958 check out this op but you need to do it in bulk to make it work.


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Re: Growing mushrooms directly out of an inoculated jar [Re: Mad Season]
    #21674171 - 05/13/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Mad Season, bodhisatta just glocked you with them pics.



Glocked me with pics? I didn't say he couldn't do it. Just said why pull the jars out to dunk and roll and put them back? If they're out just leave them out and fruit them. If they're in a jar use a casing..

Also told him to use a sgfc cause in my experience bags just don't work.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21168958 check out this op but you need to do it in bulk to make it work.



I'm just fuckin around Mad, chill.


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Re: Growing mushrooms directly out of an inoculated jar [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21674175 - 05/13/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Would it be inadvisable to try and fruit the jars in a filter bag? What are the downsides to doing this?


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Re: Growing mushrooms directly out of an inoculated jar [Re: AdventurousAndy]
    #21674194 - 05/13/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

No mushrooms? Contaminants? Lol.. I just don't see any reason to risk your grow on something nowhere near as well tested if you can just make a shotgun fruiting chamber for next to nothing, it's tested and proven, and it'll be around for your future grows.

Magick I can't tell from text what people are thinking haha, but I was trying to be polite too :P. I just realized I might not have explained myself well enough so I wanted to explain myself better :smile:


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Re: Growing mushrooms directly out of an inoculated jar [Re: Mad Season]
    #21674213 - 05/13/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

put a ziploc bag over the top of the jar and then zip tie it on or rubber band. poke a few holes see how that does poke more or less holes accordingly.


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Re: Growing mushrooms directly out of an inoculated jar [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21674229 - 05/13/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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put a ziploc bag over the top of the jar and then zip tie it on or rubber band. poke a few holes see how that does poke more or less holes accordingly.



Have you done this before bod? If so how'd it go? Sounds like something I'd try for shits and giggles. Got 70ish jars going right now so I could do it for fun lol.


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Re: Growing mushrooms directly out of an inoculated jar [Re: Mad Season]
    #21674265 - 05/13/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

all the ones I posted were pretty much done like that or with a grocery bag.


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Re: Growing mushrooms directly out of an inoculated jar [Re: Mad Season]
    #21674272 - 05/13/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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put a ziploc bag over the top of the jar and then zip tie it on or rubber band. poke a few holes see how that does poke more or less holes accordingly.



Have you done this before bod? If so how'd it go? Sounds like something I'd try for shits and giggles. Got 70ish jars going right now so I could do it for fun lol.



I'd also like to know more about this. I'd guess that you wouldn't need to mist or fan? Or would you?

A styrafoam cooler works good for a poor man's job. An easy chamber if your cheap.


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Re: Growing mushrooms directly out of an inoculated jar [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21674278 - 05/13/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

i either put a bag over the top or put them in a 5 gal bucket with a clear lid and some holes. do what works.


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Re: Growing mushrooms directly out of an inoculated jar [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21674286 - 05/13/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Fuckin eh lol!

Magick I'd imagine you'd just push the bag down and bring it up to exchange the air. There should be a hole big enough for the nozzle of the bottle.

I'm curious if you used a fan during fruiting or if you used the ambient room flow as well as compressing the bag?


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Re: Growing mushrooms directly out of an inoculated jar [Re: Mad Season]
    #21674326 - 05/13/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

gas is infinitely miscible a few small holes in there and you're fine no fan needed the central air comes on every once and a while.


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Re: Growing mushrooms directly out of an inoculated jar [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21687506 - 05/16/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Just to make sure, P.C. can grow on whole grain substrate like this correct? Specifically P.C. Mazatapec?
http://out-grow.com/mushroom-growing-substrates-c-4/4-quart-jars-of-grain-spawn-with-self-healing-injectors-p-22.html


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