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Arenis
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Consequences
#21657341 - 05/09/15 01:09 PM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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Maybe I am on the lower spectrum of intelligence, but how many of you understand the concept of consequence? I am not talking about knowing ( eg. I will kill, i will go to jail), i am talking about understanding ( i will end someones existance in this time and moment, i will pay a smaller price which is a better exchange for me).
How many of you realize that the only thing controlling your life is fear of consequences?
That being said, do you understand the existence purpose of the government? Yes, it is to create consequences for you and me! See? You are capable of critical thinking!
Next, do you understand that the "government" miscalculated one thing? Due to consequences the population cannot balance itself, thus it is always growing!. But! It earns wealth! So let us let them increase, but do not give them time to think of the point of their existence! Else that would have severe consequences! Like impossibility for "top 1%"!
Now, can you honestly tell me that you would be the same without KNOWING the consequences? Because i know most of you never tried to UNDERSTAND them.
This is only a concept created with critical thinking alone and is in no way a fact. Nothing offensive was intended, respectfully, a barely sane human who is failing to understand sanity.
Please post your ideas, i wish for this to become a debate between dreamers and realists
-------------------- Your existence is more important than mine, because you actually care about it. Anyone with experience in psychiatry please pm me if you have some spare time.
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Cosmopolite
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Re: Consequences [Re: Arenis]
#21657354 - 05/09/15 01:15 PM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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There is nothing really detrimental about having reasonable consequences for your actions, nor is there anything bad about having natural ones. If you don't know the laws you will still be punished for breaking them. If you don't know that lions are dangerous then you will die if you try to fight one. What's wrong with regards to this topic is government corruption and unfair laws.
That's why i give the finger to the government and do shit that i think is right regardless of its legality.
"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson
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Arenis
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You completely missed my point sir.
I do agree with you, but do you understand for example why buying drugs from dealers is bad? Unless you dont then of course it is me who missed your point.
Also please understand, religion is also a type of control and creation of consequences.
Best wishes วยก
-------------------- Your existence is more important than mine, because you actually care about it. Anyone with experience in psychiatry please pm me if you have some spare time.
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Re: Consequences [Re: Arenis]
#21657468 - 05/09/15 01:37 PM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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I have a fear of getting caught.
-------------------- L'enfer est plein de bonnes volontés et désirs
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Cosmopolite
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I was just answering the question "Now, can you honestly tell me that you would be the same without KNOWING the consequences?" I agree that religion is bad, but i'd have to say there is nothing wrong with buying drugs from a dealer unless the money is going to the cartel.
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Arenis
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Cosmopolite said: I was just answering the question "Now, can you honestly tell me that you would be the same without KNOWING the consequences?" I agree that religion is bad, but i'd have to say there is nothing wrong with buying drugs from a dealer unless the money is going to the cartel.
... Where did the dealer get his stock? Do you understand?
it is not bad to believe in a fiction if it benefits your life, or so i believe.
Mind is a great tool to create the life you want
-------------------- Your existence is more important than mine, because you actually care about it. Anyone with experience in psychiatry please pm me if you have some spare time.
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Re: Consequences [Re: Arenis]
#21662070 - 05/10/15 05:16 PM (9 years, 10 days ago) |
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Arenis said: Maybe I am on the lower spectrum of intelligence, but how many of you understand the concept of consequence? I am not talking about knowing ( eg. I will kill, i will go to jail), i am talking about understanding ( i will end someones existance in this time and moment, i will pay a smaller price which is a better exchange for me).
How many of you realize that the only thing controlling your life is fear of consequences?
That being said, do you understand the existence purpose of the government? Yes, it is to create consequences for you and me! See? You are capable of critical thinking!
Next, do you understand that the "government" miscalculated one thing? Due to consequences the population cannot balance itself, thus it is always growing!. But! It earns wealth! So let us let them increase, but do not give them time to think of the point of their existence! Else that would have severe consequences! Like impossibility for "top 1%"!
Now, can you honestly tell me that you would be the same without KNOWING the consequences? Because i know most of you never tried to UNDERSTAND them.
This is only a concept created with critical thinking alone and is in no way a fact. Nothing offensive was intended, respectfully, a barely sane human who is failing to understand sanity.
Please post your ideas, i wish for this to become a debate between dreamers and realists
Consequences don't control my life, my sense of right and wrong and justice controls my actions.
People in an emotional state also forget consequences.
-------------------- The life of a condemned soul is hatred.
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Re: Consequences [Re: Arenis]
#21673195 - 05/13/15 03:02 AM (9 years, 8 days ago) |
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People are not so good with long term consequences. One major example is their health. Many people smoke cigarettes even though they know it is bad for them. But they don't really understand how it is shortening their lives. Also, drug addiction and obesity.
If people can't even avoid terrible consequences to their own lives and health years and decades down the road, then how can they be expected to plan for hundreds of years for a whole society? We've had a good run as a species. at least made the low average for longevity (about a million years). I wonder if we'll make it another 10 million. Have any of you ever thought about what life would be like for our species 10 million years from now? Of course you haven't! Now get back to thinking about how you're going to pay your bills this month. That involves a consequence most people can handle.
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usulpsychonaut


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SeaShrooms said:
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Arenis said: Maybe I am on the lower spectrum of intelligence, but how many of you understand the concept of consequence? I am not talking about knowing ( eg. I will kill, i will go to jail), i am talking about understanding ( i will end someones existance in this time and moment, i will pay a smaller price which is a better exchange for me).
How many of you realize that the only thing controlling your life is fear of consequences?
That being said, do you understand the existence purpose of the government? Yes, it is to create consequences for you and me! See? You are capable of critical thinking!
Next, do you understand that the "government" miscalculated one thing? Due to consequences the population cannot balance itself, thus it is always growing!. But! It earns wealth! So let us let them increase, but do not give them time to think of the point of their existence! Else that would have severe consequences! Like impossibility for "top 1%"!
Now, can you honestly tell me that you would be the same without KNOWING the consequences? Because i know most of you never tried to UNDERSTAND them.
This is only a concept created with critical thinking alone and is in no way a fact. Nothing offensive was intended, respectfully, a barely sane human who is failing to understand sanity.
Please post your ideas, i wish for this to become a debate between dreamers and realists
Consequences don't control my life, my sense of right and wrong and justice controls my actions.
People in an emotional state also forget consequences.
Did your 'sense' of right and wrong evolve devoid of an awareness of consequences? really? Would you heal my PTSD please GOD.
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usulpsychonaut


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Re: Consequences [Re: Arenis]
#21677370 - 05/14/15 01:08 AM (9 years, 7 days ago) |
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I have observed allot of teenagers that would simply have anyone who behaves badly in a way that they cannot understand shot. Youth can also be allot more reckless. Maturity brings more familiarity with consequences. Allot of tough guys figure they are not so tough after being hospitalized. Some lie to themselves, they feel they have earned their stripes and no longer have to stand up for themselves, just try and push there agendas based on past reputation. Others just remain psychotic.
I know that I should learn to never dehumanize another human. This is logical. If I dehumanize people, nothing I say has any merit. Also taking into account my own experiences, failures, sensitivities, violence, delusions and introspections on what is it that I really want. Examining my own values. Maybe it all comes down to personal value, available/consumed information, experience and empathy. The internet should be the catalyst for evolution of higher human consciousness.
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