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Re: Smoking weed with HPPD? [Re: Gmo]
#15764320 - 02/05/12 01:07 PM (12 years, 13 days ago) |
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Midnight_Toker said: katie - Since your HPPD has only been present since December, I'm willing to bet that you will see improvement over time.
I had lingering visuals from doing acid for over a year, but like you it didn't cause me any anxiety or anything so I just sorta went with it. Eventually, once it got old and I stopped paying so much attention to it, it died down and now I only have static forming patterns and stuff in the dark, or colors floating around on the white background while I type this to you. Straight roads no longer turn into huge mountains anymore and my ceiling doesn't dissolve into a black hole or a burst of atoms lol.
What I'm trying to say is, you'll be fine. I also stopped smoking weed too.
We're you ever able to go back and continue smoking.....
I CAN smoke now, yes, but I don't very often anymore. I find that my anxiety levels are lower when I don't smoke and I have more energy. I'll still smoke every once in a blue moon though.
Oh, as for the visuals.. The weed doesn't seem to do much in terms of visuals for me anymore unless I meditate and try to get them. Everything still turns 'high definition,' but that's about it. It's been 3 years now since the trip that set me off though, and weed brought back heavy visuals for at least 2 years after. YMMV though.
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ive been getting a mini acid buzz with weed ever since i first did acid back in the early 1980s...i dont know if thats HPPD..but it never bothered me either...
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Re: Smoking weed with HPPD? [Re: katie4469]
#15767336 - 02/06/12 06:45 AM (12 years, 12 days ago) |
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katie4469 said: Hi guys!
I'll just jump straight to it and say I've had HPPD since the beginning of December. So not that long but I went through all the shit I possibly could, got CTS, MRIS, saw an optomitrist, neurologist, specialist been there done that kinda thing because I was scared as fuck. But I've already gotten used to it and It doesn't really bother me at all at this point.
I have all the visual symptoms of HPPD plus other symptoms that nobody else has described, but I have NO anxiety/depression/depersonalization/flashbacks etc.
I'd like to say the visual disturbances are pretty severe, but it's all something I've learned to deal with and I don't have any anxiety. For all of those who say HPPD isn't real and that it is just anxiety and becoming over aware of stuff that was always there- NOT TRUE! Take a look through my eyes and tell me that this is normal! So yeah my vision is pretty messed, worse than anyone else with HPPD has described.
That being said I have continued to drink alcohol and coffee with no worsening effects. However, I smoked pot yesterday for the first time since November and my visuals got a little bit worse. Not continuous, but I had these moments where it got pretty weird. It wasn't thaaaaaat bad or anything, but I'm just scared that if I continue to smoke pot It'll get worse and worse. My visuals are bad as it is, I wouldn't want to do any more damage to my brain... but I really miss getting high. ):
What does everyone think? Comments/advice/opinions?
Relax. The more you obsess and think about your HPPD the more noticeable it will become. I had fairly major HPPD back when I first started doing psychedelics and over time it just faded away. Weed definitely exacerbated my symptoms though so you may want to quit smoking until you feel comfortable picking it back up again.
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Re: Smoking weed with HPPD? [Re: katie4469]
#15816696 - 02/16/12 12:26 AM (12 years, 3 days ago) |
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hey katie
yeah my hppd started around the same time as yours. i got mine towards the end of november. three days after the trip i fell into a psychosis for around 8 days, it was pretty much the worst experience of my life, i didnt think i was going to make it out, but i did. since then i have had hppd, but i will say it has been getting better the worst part was i had a really heavy head, it literally felt like there was a brick on top of my head, i started using fish oil capsules both morning and night and this made the pressure feeling in head dissapear within a week of use and it also seems to be helping with my visuals. my visuals really are not that bad compared to what some people get. my symptons consists of
breathing walls (only really noticeable on heavily detailed surfaces) static sky (couloured static flying throughout a bright blue sky) i was getting pretty intense visuals when i had my eyes closed at night, but seems to be dying down (weed makes this much worse however) some minor light disturbances etc
so overall really not that bad, but its there, and despite what others tell you it is important to ignore it, but its also important to accept it and realise your condition, as only you can know how bad your condition is and how to properly handle it.
i got my hppd from a lot of shroom use last year (2011). i prob had around 20 trips on shrooms last year and 5 on acid, so yes i did abuse such substances, i really got lost in it all, i just simply loved the shroom experience, its as if i had found what i had been looking for my whole life, i found answers in shrooms, i would have trips where i would have very deep inner trips where i was able to ask questions and get answers, to me shrooms were as if i was tapping into some form of knowledge.
now about the weed. i was a heavy weed user before all this. been smoking daily for the past 5yrs. when my episode started however i dropped all drugs, everything. i first had weed again around 2+months after my simptons kicked in. now i cant say that it has made my visuals any more. im only smoking maybe once to twice a week maximum, but last night it caused a panic attack to come out of nowhere, so honestly i think the best thing is, is to just stay away from it for a good period of time. the brain needs time.
i havnt experience much depersonalisation but i can kinda feel in my brain that i could if i push the boundaries of drugs any further. i really stress that it is so important with hppd to really listen to your inner self, this is why u took mushrooms in the first place. you know yourself better than anyone on here, if that little voice in ur head tells you its a bad idea, well guess what? it is.
i really miss weed, but i have to face reality and accept that smoking it as much as i was is going to make my life a living hell, im greatful that i can live a normal life with mild hppd. because the thing with hppd is, is that you dont have a choice with how miner or how intense you get it. one thing i have noticed is that it seems like the younger you are when u develop it the worse it is. i am 25 so i feel like my brain had just about finished its development process which is why i havnt got it that bad. but when u see the 15-18 yr old reports on the net, its normally those cases that are the worst becauase your brain is still going through significant changes
if you want to know anymore please feel free to msg me. all we have is people like each other, who knows what each is going through.
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Re: Smoking weed with HPPD? [Re: ryanmcfly]
#15819251 - 02/16/12 03:10 PM (12 years, 2 days ago) |
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ryanmcfly said: hey katie
yeah my hppd started around the same time as yours. i got mine towards the end of november. three days after the trip i fell into a psychosis for around 8 days, it was pretty much the worst experience of my life, i didnt think i was going to make it out, but i did. since then i have had hppd, but i will say it has been getting better the worst part was i had a really heavy head, it literally felt like there was a brick on top of my head, i started using fish oil capsules both morning and night and this made the pressure feeling in head dissapear within a week of use and it also seems to be helping with my visuals. my visuals really are not that bad compared to what some people get. my symptons consists of
breathing walls (only really noticeable on heavily detailed surfaces) static sky (couloured static flying throughout a bright blue sky) i was getting pretty intense visuals when i had my eyes closed at night, but seems to be dying down (weed makes this much worse however) some minor light disturbances etc
so overall really not that bad, but its there, and despite what others tell you it is important to ignore it, but its also important to accept it and realise your condition, as only you can know how bad your condition is and how to properly handle it.
i got my hppd from a lot of shroom use last year (2011). i prob had around 20 trips on shrooms last year and 5 on acid, so yes i did abuse such substances, i really got lost in it all, i just simply loved the shroom experience, its as if i had found what i had been looking for my whole life, i found answers in shrooms, i would have trips where i would have very deep inner trips where i was able to ask questions and get answers, to me shrooms were as if i was tapping into some form of knowledge.
now about the weed. i was a heavy weed user before all this. been smoking daily for the past 5yrs. when my episode started however i dropped all drugs, everything. i first had weed again around 2+months after my simptons kicked in. now i cant say that it has made my visuals any more. im only smoking maybe once to twice a week maximum, but last night it caused a panic attack to come out of nowhere, so honestly i think the best thing is, is to just stay away from it for a good period of time. the brain needs time.
i havnt experience much depersonalisation but i can kinda feel in my brain that i could if i push the boundaries of drugs any further. i really stress that it is so important with hppd to really listen to your inner self, this is why u took mushrooms in the first place. you know yourself better than anyone on here, if that little voice in ur head tells you its a bad idea, well guess what? it is.
i really miss weed, but i have to face reality and accept that smoking it as much as i was is going to make my life a living hell, im greatful that i can live a normal life with mild hppd. because the thing with hppd is, is that you dont have a choice with how miner or how intense you get it. one thing i have noticed is that it seems like the younger you are when u develop it the worse it is. i am 25 so i feel like my brain had just about finished its development process which is why i havnt got it that bad. but when u see the 15-18 yr old reports on the net, its normally those cases that are the worst becauase your brain is still going through significant changes
if you want to know anymore please feel free to msg me. all we have is people like each other, who knows what each is going through.
That trip that sent you into that psychosis state, was it a bad trip?? Do you think the frequency of your tripping had was primarily the cause of your HPPD or did you have a couple bad trips in there that set it off??
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Re: Smoking weed with HPPD? [Re: Gmo]
#15825756 - 02/17/12 10:36 PM (12 years, 1 day ago) |
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yes i would say it was the frequency. i never had a bad trip on shrooms, the last shroom trip before the psychosis i watched people around me on them lose their minds, one guy tried to knife all of us, i stress to every1 on here shrooms can be very, very dangerous, especially given to the wrong minds.
the last trip was intense in the sense of having to deal with others, my actual trip i wouldnt label as bad, but it was ego shattering, it really broke me down and made me face myself and i reflect on that as a good thing, for me it was the last the thing i needed to learn from the shroom experience, it was like being reborn.
i only had one bad trip, and that was on two tabs of acid, it was actually like i had entered hell, there was visions in my head of people on fire and ripping their flesh off, the strange thing was i wasnt the only one of those trips that got the same visuals, acid is something i stopped taking though after i got into shrooms, it really just is a waste of time and who knows whats really in it.
so yes my psychosis i would say was caused from abusing such substances. i thought i was invincinle, but sadly i was mistaken. i am just very greatful that my hppd is very mild because there are others out there where it ruins your life and some people get it simply from smoking weed, i really feel sorry for these people and personally i wish i had of known about hppd before i started abusing mushrooms. i even did do some research when i was in my period of tripping most weekends of health affects and never read anything about hppd. some people just brush it off on this site as nothing to worry about, whilst i wouldnt use the word worry, it is something not to ignore.
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Re: Smoking weed with HPPD? [Re: ryanmcfly]
#15826269 - 02/18/12 12:49 AM (12 years, 1 day ago) |
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ryanmcfly said: shrooms can be very, very dangerous, especially given to the wrong minds.
I'll drink to that. 
In my experience:
HPPD is made much worse by weed-smoking. The anxiety will continue to get worse when you are high, and the visuals will get worse and your general sober headspace will decline in lucidity/immersal in reality. That was how it worked for me, at least.
I would recommend a few month break from weed. Ideally, your HPPD symptoms will permanently decrease and you can get back to smoking with minimal disturbances.
Good luck.
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Re: Smoking weed with HPPD? [Re: katie4469]
#21672599 - 05/12/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey you have HPPD. Sounds like you took psychedelics and it's all out in the open now. Unless someone has a different perception of HPPD it should look that way.
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