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OfflineTheBoomking
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Broken san pedro to re root?
    #21636292 - 05/04/15 06:55 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

hey guys really sorry to make such an ignorant post but the situation is time sensitive and I'm inbetween finals, family bullshit, and straight nonsense....

situation is...

I arrived home to see my already haggard 3-4 foot san pedro, broke 1 foot up from the base and the top end was on the ground.

How do i go about trying to reroot the broken part? let it dry right and then put it in water/soil?

sorry for no pics ill upload them soon right now i have to study for finals.

thanks for any responses and thanks for not being a dick about anything (last time i posted in this forum i got shit some something or whatever)

Edited by TheBoomking (05/11/15 11:19 AM)

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Re: san pedro question? [Re: TheBoomking]
    #21636362 - 05/04/15 07:09 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

To get shit in this forum you must of done something pretty epic to upset the locals. We're fairly chill in here, except when someone posts a stolen cactus.


Anyway, you're cactus is going to be ok. Let the broken off part callus(or heal) for a couple of weeks or so. If there's any ragged bits from the break you should cut them off so the cut is nice and clean and heals without issue.

Once you've callused the broken tip you then just plant into a well draining soil, or suitable cactus mix, and leave it for around 8 weeks to form roots. Staking it while it forms roots is good to do, it shouldn't be flopping around in its pots while rooting.


The above applies if it is the growing season in your area. If it's Autumn then you can just leave the cactus potted until Spring and it should be rooted by then.


Here's a little tek I did a while back if you want more detailed info>>>>https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13583817#13583817


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Re: san pedro question? [Re: karode13]
    #21637996 - 05/05/15 02:28 AM (9 years, 16 days ago)

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To get shit in this forum you must of done something pretty epic to upset the locals.



:ahahaha:


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Re: san pedro question? [Re: Lemnaminor]
    #21638777 - 05/05/15 09:42 AM (9 years, 15 days ago)

Cut the broken parts so they are clean, if the tips or any pieces are badly bruised and mushy I'd chop those parts off as well. Then just callus and root like normal

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Re: san pedro question? [Re: Rife]
    #21639146 - 05/05/15 11:24 AM (9 years, 15 days ago)

You can root the cacti horizontal too. It will send out roots, then in time it will pup out. You can keep it as one big happy family, or divide and multiply.


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Re: san pedro question? [Re: El Torcho]
    #21664867 - 05/11/15 11:27 AM (9 years, 9 days ago)

Thanks for the responses and advice guys! :cheers:

Sorry to respond so late Ive been too busy lately.

Heres a picture of said san pedro in its current state:



I made a clean cut on the bottom of the fallen portion as recommended a few days ago as soon as I read to do so.

I have a couple more questions;

Will the bottom of the cactus be okay and sprout new growth?

since the portion that has fallen off is all gangly and a few feet in length - could I split it into halves or thirds and plant all of these?

Pretty sure i tried this before and the only one that survived was the top part which is what this san pedro is from ...

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Re: san pedro question? [Re: TheBoomking]
    #21664974 - 05/11/15 11:51 AM (9 years, 9 days ago)

Yes, the remaining base now that the only growth tip section has been removed, it will pup and send out one (or two, or more) new columns.

And yes, you can divide the column into two or three pieces and let each root individually. I think I might actually recommend that seeing how etiolated it is.

Just FYI, you see how it is getting progressively narrower in width from bottom to top? That is called etiolation and is due to it not getting sufficient lighting. Essentially, it is stretching toward light.


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Re: san pedro question? [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21665087 - 05/11/15 12:17 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

awesome i kinda figured something like that - she didnt get good sun all winter and was inside  the whole time.

Also whats up with the skin discolorations on the base - Ive been afraid its a slow rot but she's been okay for years so Im not sure what to think. I was fertilizing (very low amounts) the past month or so hoping it would improve the skin discoloration but nothing happened except faster growth it seemed.

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Re: san pedro question? [Re: TheBoomking]
    #21665218 - 05/11/15 12:43 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

Could be a sort of fungus or some other sort of damage to the epidermis. I'm really still learning cacti diseases still so I'm not really sure. One thing I am sure of (well, I think), is that the epidermis will likely just stay like that. Once it's damaged like that I think it usually just 'scabs' over and stays like that as long as the fungus/disease (if that is what this is) does not spread.


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Re: san pedro question? [Re: TheBoomking]
    #21665883 - 05/11/15 03:40 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

When I do the cut and callous routine, I think it's important to expose the cut to strong sunlight (and wind if possible) for no less than 3 days.  This cuts back on mold trying to take hold of the cut end.  I've done it without the sun in a shady spot with RH about 55-65 and I've had lots of problems with mold.  I've tried the sun bake method for 1 day and 2 days and still had problems, 3rd day is the charm.  After the 3rd day I can safely put them in a shady spot for 2 weeks then plant them in dry soil.  Then I check them every couple of weeks for roots.

There are chemical cures (sulfur) for this woe too but the sun works so well I haven't played with it too much.

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Re: san pedro question? [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21669612 - 05/12/15 11:45 AM (9 years, 8 days ago)

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Could be a sort of fungus or some other sort of damage to the epidermis. I'm really still learning cacti diseases still so I'm not really sure. One thing I am sure of (well, I think), is that the epidermis will likely just stay like that. Once it's damaged like that I think it usually just 'scabs' over and stays like that as long as the fungus/disease (if that is what this is) does not spread.




In my experience he is correct, once your cactus gets a scar it will be that way forever.  Like he said, if it's not spreading then it's not an issue anymore.  I also recommend you cut that skinny top piece into two or three pieces, and once it roots try to give it lots of sunlight and water over the summer to thicken them up.


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Re: san pedro question? [Re: BigHeart]
    #21674247 - 05/13/15 11:11 AM (9 years, 7 days ago)



so this is where Im at. I cut the top portion into thirds - and the top piece has seemingly kept growing, but is also more tender than i remember, is this normal?

Lemme know how things look, Ill keep you updated when I plant into them into soil. :cheers:

Edited by TheBoomking (05/13/15 11:12 AM)

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Re: san pedro question? [Re: TheBoomking]
    #21674292 - 05/13/15 11:23 AM (9 years, 7 days ago)

Keep an eye on it. It may just be getting slightly softer from dehydrating a bit since now that it doesn't have roots, it is using the water stored within it. If it starts getting really soft or oozing something, it probably has rot, but I would bet it is just getting dehydrated.

Looking good! :thumbup:


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Re: san pedro question? [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #21679340 - 05/14/15 03:37 PM (9 years, 6 days ago)

It's normal for it to continue to grow, It might grow for about an inch then stop, and only start up again one roots are established.

I have several cuttings of top and middle sections that show growth like you are describing (or pup(s) for the mid-sections) but have put out no roots yet.  I expect roots to be not far behind though, and by that I mean a few days to a few weeks.

Softness is not normal for a healthy plant, but it can still be healthy and grow again.  If I had a cutting go soft it would be very unusual and probably a sign that the mother plant was not in good health.

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Re: san pedro question? [Re: invitro]
    #21681928 - 05/15/15 06:54 AM (9 years, 5 days ago)

Yeah the mother plant definitely wasn't very healthy - cold all winter and little light.

also i started fertilizing her a few weeks before this happened... should i not be fertilizing?

It was a very light application of a organic 3-3-3 tea

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