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Re: 3 mg xanax bars [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21667018 - 05/11/15 07:49 PM (9 years, 8 days ago)

There are surely some underdosed bars, too. Guaranteeing a pill's contents are evenly distributed requires a certain process/pricey equipment. Obviously they have the means, but they are hardly the only ones pressing knockoff bars with the availability of alprazolam.

I also don't put it past anyone to sell 3mg as 2mg. As addictive as benzos are, cornering the market would be huge. Yes it requires 50% more alprazolam, but I'd imagine it's still close to a 10,000% markup from bulk powder price to street value.


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Re: 3 mg xanax bars [Re: DustBunny]
    #21667063 - 05/11/15 08:00 PM (9 years, 8 days ago)

See that's what I don't understand about this Mexican ghost bar thing. It's way easier and cheaper to make an underdosed product and sell for the same price. Why the hell would they put 4 or 5 mg in a bar and charge the same price? From a business perspective that makes absolutely no sense


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Re: 3 mg xanax bars [Re: DustBunny]
    #21667068 - 05/11/15 08:01 PM (9 years, 8 days ago)

Yes, I was reading recently that the generics from Purepac (yellow bars) were tested and a lot of them were either underdosed or over. Nothing crazy, but some from the same batch would be around 1.6-1.8mg's while others were 2.1-2.3mg's.

That's why I don't like getting my RX filled at Wallgreens. That's all they dispense unless you shell over the shirt off your back for brand name Xanax.


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Re: 3 mg xanax bars [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21667082 - 05/11/15 08:03 PM (9 years, 8 days ago)

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See that's what I don't understand about this Mexican ghost bar thing. It's way easier and cheaper to make an underdosed product and sell for the same price. Why the hell would they put 4 or 5 mg in a bar and charge the same price? From a business perspective that makes absolutely no sense




I think it's just a lack of quality control.
In order to produce mass quantities of tablets all containing exactly 2mg's of Alprazolam I'm guessing you need some pretty fancy and expensive equipment.

Just a guess. :shrug:


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Re: 3 mg xanax bars [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21667122 - 05/11/15 08:12 PM (9 years, 8 days ago)

yeah and its pretty easy to get pure alpraz powder now so it wouldnt surprise me at all


right around 08 there was an influx of fake OC80s round baltimore - probably came from mexico - they were straight up plastic, with the color just barely off on the coating (which was more of a paint than coating)....it was crazy. it didnt take long for people to catch on tho and they were phased out by whoever was making them after a few months


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Re: 3 mg xanax bars [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21667157 - 05/11/15 08:18 PM (9 years, 8 days ago)

Yeah you do make more money pressing under-dosed bars but when the markup is basically 10,000 fold they simply don't care. It's going to be a shit ton of profit no matter what. They aren't using those one machines (granulation machine) that make sure a product is within the 2mg range (evenly distributed). They just buy the press and press the bars. Simply taking the active ingredient and mixing it with binders in a bowl isn't going to produce an even mix. That is the problem I'm assuming is wrong with the ghost bars and pressed pills. You can be sure that they aren't like 10mg but the margin of error is still likely (+) or (-) 1.0mg or so. Think about mixing flower and sugar. mixing that in a bowl won't ensure that every 1tbsp = 2g of sugar. You need to go through a granulation process first to make that a true statement.

so that's why I despise pressed bars. If they are going to be the same price as the legit pharm bars then they should be up to the standards as well. It's a rip off to pay normal price for any known pressed bar. I've literally seen em all..

3mg bars do not exist or are produced by any credible pharmacy. Only 3mg triangles as you showed in the pic exist. You can get mismade bars that are hot or you get some that suck. No way to know how many milligrams are in a pill till you use analytical instruments.

The farmapram bars (ghost bars) are made in mexico and are sold as 2mg bars. Many people think that's true but also have gotten various effects from taking a quarter/half/whole bar. They are likely made in a decent place but lack the quality control seen in United States. It's even been speculated that it is ran by the cartels which probably is true.

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Re: 3 mg xanax bars [Re: DustBunny]
    #21667221 - 05/11/15 08:31 PM (9 years, 8 days ago)

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Malcolm_Xtasy said:
See that's what I don't understand about this Mexican ghost bar thing. It's way easier and cheaper to make an underdosed product and sell for the same price. Why the hell would they put 4 or 5 mg in a bar and charge the same price? From a business perspective that makes absolutely no sense



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I also don't put it past anyone to sell 3mg as 2mg. As addictive as benzos are, cornering the market would be huge. Yes it requires 50% more alprazolam, but I'd imagine it's still close to a 10,000% markup from bulk powder price to street value.




That's my best guess; I definitely wouldn't say "makes absolutely no sense". "You've got to spend money to make money." and all


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I'm sure there are still tons of knock-off roxis/OP's given how cheap and potent the current fent analogs are. I heard of some around here mid 2013. I enjoyed fent don't get me wrong, but I wouldn't touch a butyrfent pill made without that pricey granulation machine (Thanks for posting and reminding me of it Gorlax) with a ten foot pill. Even the less potent analogs, there is just too much of a risk for a high that could be provided 100% safely (real pharm opis).


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Re: 3 mg xanax bars [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21668079 - 05/12/15 12:30 AM (9 years, 8 days ago)

there very well could be 3mg in the bars...there's a lot of people home pressing bars that look almost identical to pharmacy made ones and they just add in 3mg instead of two.


there's even a vendor whose whole schtick is "3mg bars".

No, there's not any pharmaceutical grade bars with 3mg in there but it is definitely very possible to have a "bar" with 3mg in it


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Re: 3 mg xanax bars [Re: Oldgregg]
    #21671345 - 05/12/15 06:43 PM (9 years, 7 days ago)

I've never heard anyone try to pass the green bar that only has 3 sections off as 3mgs. Retarded and bad business.

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