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R0B0G3N3S1S
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Strains that produce no psilisauce DMT
#21660049 - 05/10/15 04:22 AM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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I have heard, some cubes are very weak. I am curious if anybody has isolated or even grew from multispore, and encountered shrooms with absolutely no potency. I am curious, if it is possible that one of these weak ass shrooms are unable to convert the dmt into psili. I am also curious if anybody has essayed their impotent shrooms for dmt presence using an maoi?
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Edited by R0B0G3N3S1S (05/11/15 05:12 PM)
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3iRiS9
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Re: Strains that produce no psilisauce [Re: R0B0G3N3S1S]
#21660051 - 05/10/15 04:24 AM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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I've read plenty of threads about people consuming large amounts of their harvests with no effects whatsoever.
From what I was reading, there are a lot of variables.
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R0B0G3N3S1S
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Re: Strains that produce no psilisauce [Re: 3iRiS9]
#21666392 - 05/11/15 05:19 PM (9 years, 9 days ago) |
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and nobody knows what enzymes convert dmt into psilocybin... I'm very curious about this, I know that low nute levels can cause bad potency, I'm sure there are other variable, but nitrogen is needed in the production of dmt, so we must limit the variable to strange additives or genetics..... rather than "Lalala I'mma grow this on straight white rice and fruit it with no bulk/casing."I think that PE was selected towards mutated downregulators of psilocybin and maybe dmt... Just a theory though. Anybody ever get weak penis envy?
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Re: Strains that produce no psilisauce DMT [Re: R0B0G3N3S1S]
#21666546 - 05/11/15 06:01 PM (9 years, 9 days ago) |
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R0B0G3N3S1S said: I have heard, some cubes are very weak. I am curious if anybody has isolated or even grew from multispore, and encountered shrooms with absolutely no potency. I am curious, if it is possible that one of these weak ass shrooms are unable to convert the dmt into psili. I am also curious if anybody has essayed their impotent shrooms for dmt presence using an maoi?
All cubes have the same growth parameters and mostly only differ cosmetically.. the exception are varietys like penis envy as they are usually more potent on average.
But for the most part, all cubes have the same potential to produce very strong or weak strains. Well domesticated varieties have never dissapointed me
Weak mushrooms do happen from time to time although very rare. Its genetics, not the way they were grown.
I think you are confusing Psilocin (4 HO DMT) with DMT. Different drugs, both Tryptamines. MAOI will potentiate mushrooms just like it does DMT. Mushrooms do not contain DMT like Mimosa, Acacia etc do.
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Edited by mushpunx (05/11/15 06:06 PM)
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Re: Strains that produce no psilisauce DMT [Re: mushpunx]
#21666719 - 05/11/15 06:43 PM (9 years, 9 days ago) |
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I did a PF Tek grow last winter that I had problems with. The cakes took forever to produce just a few fruits. It was B+. I took over 3g dry. It had absolutely no effects other than a nasty taste in my mouth when eating them.
I have now done maybe a dozen successful PE grows (21 qt mini monos) and have had nothing but praise for their potency. It's subjective, but it seems that the blobs are more potent than the "normal" shrooms. The yield is less per tub though if I get blobs.
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R0B0G3N3S1S
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Re: Strains that produce no psilisauce DMT [Re: Alwaysanoob]
#21666850 - 05/11/15 07:14 PM (9 years, 9 days ago) |
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I thought the fungus 4-ho'ed the dmt into psillisauce, am I incorrect in this? :0 But if not, b+ on pf to try looking for this super weak shroom... it may be the answer.
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Re: Strains that produce no psilisauce DMT [Re: R0B0G3N3S1S]
#21666944 - 05/11/15 07:32 PM (9 years, 9 days ago) |
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Yea I dont think it quite works like that, its why Mushrooms and DMT feel pretty different. Youd have to ask a chemist haha
Any cube has the same potential to be strong/weak. The most potent mushrooms I have ever had were B+ one grow
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Re: Strains that produce no psilisauce DMT [Re: mushpunx]
#21712537 - 05/22/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am curious, if it is possible that one of these weak ass shrooms are unable to convert the dmt into psili.
Maybe. I know similar kinds of mutations are not uncommon. However it's also possible that if DMT were to be produced it would be toxic and disrupt growth if not metabolized and no mushroom would grow. It would be interesting to try with a MAOI.
Also DMT is only a possible intermediate. The actual intermediate I don't believe has been detected yet as it gets transformed immediately after it's produced.
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