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OfflineTurtletotem
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #21664542 - 05/11/15 09:14 AM (9 years, 9 days ago)

Why is it always euphoric neckbeards VS inbred hicks with these topics, anyway?

Because nobody else cares.


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #21664546 - 05/11/15 09:16 AM (9 years, 9 days ago)

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Turtletotem said:
Why is it always euphoric neckbeards VS inbred hicks with these topics, anyway?

Because nobody else cares.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #21665125 - 05/11/15 12:25 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

You agrue groundless points and are surprised when people are angry because of it? You dismiss loads of information because of a few assumptions that you think are true? and then you say some shit about intelligible debate???  no wonder most people stayed out of it. theres no intelligible debete with a guy who is programmed by greys, or the dude who sides with him because ANOTHER guy got pissed at their blind arrogance.

ignorant
/ˈɪɡnərənt/
adjective
1.
lacking in knowledge or education; unenlightened
2.
(postpositive) often foll by of. lacking in awareness or knowledge (of): ignorant of the law
3.
resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or awareness: an ignorant remark


You wernt alive in this body between 10 B.C.E. and 50 A.D.E., to the best of MY knowledge.

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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: WeAreAnchors]
    #21665278 - 05/11/15 12:55 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

I had a thought that kinda makes sense with this debate. Both of the sides (at least the ones senselessly argueing with no debate) are just saying the same thing. You guys are just too blind to see what's right in front of you. Some people are just more receptive to forms of spirituality IMO. Others are trying to be more "realistic". The thing is with this one argument you can defend both sides, at least on a philosophical level.

Even if jesus never existed, his ideology and teachings were truly important. They set the foundation of a lot of the morals we hold today. Even if he isn't "real", the impact set off by him has the changed the world and there is no denying that fact.


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #21665356 - 05/11/15 01:16 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

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WeAreAnchors said:
But before that alien dude left he said something about the people not being smart and assuming the originators of the scripture were stupid fools, when they may well have been SHROOMERITES. Forest dwelling monkhood is an ancient practice.




So they were highly educated people and they had a better understanding of the world, life and the cosmos than us nowadays....

Don't understand why calling them ignorant offended you. You can't have adult conversations or debate. Nobody is attacking religion. I'm just defending my point of view. If you are defending religion and you get angry is because your arguments are not convincing enough or not up to the task to defend religion so you have to rely on insults and explosive behaviour.



Dude, compared to all the shit forced down our throat by the media, showing publicly the information the allocators/censors WANT us to understand, Id wager they couldnt be much dumber


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: WeAreAnchors]
    #21665367 - 05/11/15 01:19 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

Send some aliens!! how many more will be detained, I wonder? lol dass fer allov uzz


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: WeAreAnchors]
    #21665570 - 05/11/15 02:25 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

Anchors, just stop dude.

I haven't ignored anyone yet, and I don't want to ignore anyone. But you're really on your way to being the first. :facepalm3:


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Achillita]
    #21665671 - 05/11/15 02:52 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

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Even if jesus never existed, his ideology and teachings were truly important. They set the foundation of a lot of the morals we hold today. Even if he isn't "real", the impact set off by him has the changed the world and there is no denying that fact.




Changed the world for the better or for the worse?

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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Confucian]
    #21665687 - 05/11/15 02:55 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

I don't think that question can be answered.

Can I answer I with just "yes"

Some ways for better. Some ways for worse. Very little in this world is inherently good. So many things have a double edged sword. I don't personally believe in jesus, but I'm not so stuck on disbelief that I can't see the good he did in the world, or his stories did, however you prefer me to word it, whether I write about him being real or a story, his story cause endless amounts of joy, and it causes people not to fear death, without the use of psychedelics. But it also has cause endless amounts of pain, and suffering at the same time.

Everything in this world is a double edged sword.


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21665702 - 05/11/15 02:59 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

lol my that last post WAS a bit vague.

This subject hits close to home for me. For ALL of us. I (as you can tell) feel very strongly about being denied basic understanding of life, kinda like you.

I dont think the way many religions still impose their harmful beliefs is okay, or if it should continue at all! I don't!

I also dont think you can conclude that the people who started it were primitive and nonexistant based on what some haters or worse wrote.

and I most CERTAINLY dont want to be branded as some thick-headed religious basket-case with a short temper.


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Confucian]
    #21665899 - 05/11/15 03:43 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

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Achillita said:
Even if jesus never existed, his ideology and teachings were truly important. They set the foundation of a lot of the morals we hold today. Even if he isn't "real", the impact set off by him has the changed the world and there is no denying that fact.




Changed the world for the better or for the worse?



I agree with Pychonautica's point of it being a double edged sword. The true teachings of jesus, was an amazing impact. But there are the people who will yell blasphemy and spew hate because they don't follow the same religion.

That being said, jesus's true teaching changed the world into a slightly more forgiving society. If you look at the bible before jesus and after jesus, the teachings are completely different. I mean the old testament preaches how people need to be punished, and that people of sin are evil. The new testament says everyone has thier faults and that forgiveness is always there.

Again even if he never was real, his teachings truly are. I think I read a theory once that jesus possibly traveled into asia and learned from some buddhist temples. I mean in the bible there is a 30 year disappearance of jesus's story.(That is assuming he truly existed) The teachings that he instilled changed a lot of the views of christians. I'm not christian but I can easily respect many of his teachings. Just as I can respect the buddha's teachings.


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Achillita]
    #21665910 - 05/11/15 03:46 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

I'm pretty anti-religious in general but as far as I can tell the old-school pre-state-religion christianity wasn't bad as far as ancient religions go, it was really the Roman establishment of the Catholic church that fucked everything up

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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #21665931 - 05/11/15 03:53 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

I agree for the most part, the Catholics are probably the worst religion out there, as far as what I consider evil behaviors.


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #21665940 - 05/11/15 03:55 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

I agree, the catholic church became very corrupted and ruined a lot of the teachings of christianity and messed up the world. It's not the religion's fault, or even the majority of the followers. It's the people who took advantage of the power they were trusted. Corruption caused much of the bad things religion has done. It's true teachings are usually very helpful and beneficial to not only society, but to one's mental health.


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Achillita]
    #21665952 - 05/11/15 03:57 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

This thread isn't bashing on religion, now it's just bashing on Catholics lol.

Oh yeah very true man, the Catholic church is more corrupt than the government, (I was going to say then the american government, but they're more corrupt then all forms of government, even north korea and china)


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Ezuma]
    #21665953 - 05/11/15 03:57 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

God is a matter shorn of it's own privation.

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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Achillita]
    #21665968 - 05/11/15 04:03 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

most religions started off pretty bad, they all did some fuck up shit in the name of god, but i think nowadays many of them have improved their ways for the most part. it's gonna happen it;s inevitable with any religion.

we started off with psychedelics, it was all fun and games first and then people started finding out that the shit goes way deeper like alice in wonderland. this how all religions began. religions set the paths so u dont have to take psyches. that's y if look at any religion u'll find many of the same principals u get from psychedelic trips.


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21665971 - 05/11/15 04:04 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

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This thread isn't bashing on religion, now it's just bashing on Catholics lol.

Oh yeah very true man, the Catholic church is more corrupt than the government, (I was going to say then the american government, but they're more corrupt then all forms of government, even north korea and china)




i'd say it is less corrupt than most governments.


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: zZZz]
    #21666141 - 05/11/15 04:37 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

God is real because my dad said so.  End of story.


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #21666166 - 05/11/15 04:41 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

just because ur dad said so doesnt mean he's right

u should go out there and do ur own homework, find out for urself


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