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Trypto-Fan
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Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings?
#21653963 - 05/08/15 04:10 PM (9 years, 12 days ago) |
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Interested to know your opinions.
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TrippieHunter
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: Trypto-Fan]
#21653968 - 05/08/15 04:11 PM (9 years, 12 days ago) |
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might want to start your own thread off with your own thoughts.
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: TrippieHunter]
#21653986 - 05/08/15 04:17 PM (9 years, 12 days ago) |
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shrug... i'll go..
i think what you speak to is nothing less than your personal connection to the creative force of the universe.
its your telephone line to the cpu that runs this crazy simulation.
-------------------- ->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <- . i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications) [quote]Enlil said: I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: rxb]
#21653999 - 05/08/15 04:20 PM (9 years, 12 days ago) |
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Entities be real but they aren't from around here, exactly.
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: rxb]
#21654004 - 05/08/15 04:22 PM (9 years, 12 days ago) |
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Honestly I have no idea what any of it is. What I find most fascinating is the reports from centuries ago of similar trips using similar drugs. In this day
and age I can understand how mentally we form the entities and what not because we have a vast knowledge about alot of it, which enables us to create it in our
minds while we trip. I think that there is something deeper there, just not sure what. I do believe that we are all connected in some way, humans, plants,
animals, all living things.
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: Trypto-Fan]
#21654096 - 05/08/15 04:39 PM (9 years, 12 days ago) |
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The entity that graced me with its presence surely did not feel like just a manifestation of the mind, to me.
But that doesn't mean a thing.
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: Trypto-Fan]
#21654180 - 05/08/15 04:58 PM (9 years, 12 days ago) |
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I'd say manifestations of the mind......but on a good dose the mind seems to extend into extra dimensions.
Overall I'm a sceptic who leaves the door slightly open........trips are so weird that one lesson is - you can't trust reality, you can't even trust your own mind.
But during a trip......I see, and I believe.........
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: Aldebaran]
#21654228 - 05/08/15 05:10 PM (9 years, 12 days ago) |
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Everything in reality is filtered through the perception of ones mind anyway. I do think sometimes, you can tap into something real though!
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#21654279 - 05/08/15 05:24 PM (9 years, 12 days ago) |
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fairies wear boots you gotta believe me
-------------------- ->$10 FLOW HOOD ALTERNATIVE <- . i cleaned a mold contaminated live culture and saved it. (might have useful applications) [quote]Enlil said: I'd be the guy with thousands of minions doing my bidding and all of the hot women locked in a cage for my use.[/quote]
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#21654298 - 05/08/15 05:31 PM (9 years, 12 days ago) |
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The human brain is so powerful and full of preconceived notions. I belive they are manifestations of the mind.
We can dream up the weirdest stuff in our sleep, that we would never even think of while awake. It's no surprise what a powerful psychedelic can do to us.
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: wutfa]
#21654530 - 05/08/15 06:41 PM (9 years, 12 days ago) |
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I believe it's in the way the mind forms things within it.
When you see a person, you remember the face and body shape of that person. When you go to a place, you remember the scents, lighting, colors, sounds, etc of that place. Just consider each aspect a layer to the 'place' that you envisioned, layers / aspects that create a whole experience.
I believe the algorithm in our perceptually vulnerable stand of mind to create these entities are just the result of our mind texturing the layers and aspects I previously mentioned to create something unique that we normally wouldn't see, wether it's entities or another dimension or whatever your mind comes up with in this state.
We humans experience a lot in our lifetime therefore we have a big 'bank' of layers and textures to mix + match / combine with our senses.
We're just like, faulty hyperactive yet primitive beings that have some interesting capabilities that help us see the world in many different ways, possibly something that we share with other intelligent life forms in the universe.
So it's in our heads.
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: SomeGuyX]
#21656178 - 05/09/15 07:03 AM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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My use of LSD has shown me so far that these things seem to just 'hack' the brain. I was able to see all the different aspects of my psyche (the dominant part being the pleasure-seeking part it seems), it was like having all the wires crossed and plugged into the wrong places.
Think of those gameshark things you used to get for nintendo/etc, it's like sticking one of them in your brain, and enabling all sorts of glitches/cheats that were never meant to happen, but result in pretty sweet shit.
I'm yet to try DMT, so I can't speak for that, and I've never seen entities on mushrooms, hence me not offering my opinion at first. But with LSD at least, I believe it's simply increased pattern recognition, which explains all the synchronicity and the revelatory nature of the drug.
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: Trypto-Fan]
#21656239 - 05/09/15 07:39 AM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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I think that when your sense of self is dininished, your thoughts almost seem foreign and like it is a random voicing guiding you and telling you what to do. But really it's just your thoughts that feels alien.
But now what about our thouggts? Are those controlled by an entity? When I'm tripping super hard, it feels like I'm following instructions and entities are showing and explaining things to me. Then I start to get the "I've been here before and reincarnation seems viable."
And some of those thoughts like that really don't come from me so I do feel like they have some force or power that makes us think things like this like reincarnation. Combine that with the depleted sense of self and yea, it feels and sounds like a whole other entity. But no, I think it is just us feeling the god or natural intelligence within all things at a higher level of connection that makes us more likely to rationalize any thoughts we have in a trip.
I mean I don't think the mushroom itself is an entity by itswlf, but rather widens the gap through which we can see and feel the natural intelligence of the world. Or god whatever you wanna call it. I prefer natural intelligence myself
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: rxb]
#21656258 - 05/09/15 07:49 AM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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rxb said: fairies wear boots you gotta believe me
LOL. Gotta love that Ozzie! 
W/R/T entities...I like what a lot of folks have already said. Glad to see such healthy (and IMHO) well deserved skepticism on the "reality" of entities. My take is that (like everything else) entities are just a manifestation in/to your mind. The thing that makes them feel so real is only the mental trickery from a life-time's worth of believing what you perceive through your senses is really "out there." In reality, reality is all INTERNAL.
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: Trypto-Fan]
#21657040 - 05/09/15 12:00 PM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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Quote:
Trypto-Fan said: My use of LSD has shown me so far that these things seem to just 'hack' the brain.
Think of those gameshark things you used to get for nintendo/etc, it's like sticking one of them in your brain,
Nice Tripto, I really like this simile!
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: Trypto-Fan]
#21657741 - 05/09/15 03:02 PM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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Quote:
Trypto-Fan said:
But with LSD at least, I believe it's simply increased pattern recognition, which explains all the synchronicity and the revelatory nature of the drug.
It might, if the synchronistic effects weren't also noticed by straight people when they happen. 
My research so far indicates profound effects on what we usually consider "reality" actually occur. Skepticism is the naive reaction to this far more profound occurrence.
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#21657895 - 05/09/15 03:54 PM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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can you more clearly define synchronistic effects
or link where you did...sorry.
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: rxb]
#21657928 - 05/09/15 04:00 PM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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Here's a link to a Wiki page on it. It's a pattern in the Matrix around us that some people can notice when they really evaluate their world around them, like an extra sense of awareness. I think that's a good explanation of it but I'm no expert, but if there are experts on such things you'll probably find them in the Shroomery
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: SomeGuyX]
#21657989 - 05/09/15 04:17 PM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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how about some real world examples.
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Re: Entities, manifestations of the mind or extra-dimensional beings? [Re: rxb]
#21658022 - 05/09/15 04:31 PM (9 years, 11 days ago) |
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Okay, I think examples would make it seem like an ESP kind of thing, but I don't think ESP can be completely explained nor can this.
But an example might be: you have the feeling that something is happening in parallel to what's happening around you right now, presently. You notice something is just there, or overlaid on top of everything. You look at the date and notice that it's the same day that something amazing happened last year, yet your brain was queued in from your current environment that was although different than the past experience's setting but some parts are identical. It was like the world lined up in a way to trigger your mind to remember an experience that you had exactly a year ago.
Explaining it seems like you're just experiencing a memory, but the big deal is at which how the memory was triggered / the way the environment worked in a way to do exactly that. It's the relationship between the two that seems peculiar when a magnifying glass is put on it.
I don't know how to explain it, just weird stuff that happens in a meaningful way when most people would be like "huh, what a coincidence."
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