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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: Connoisseur]
    #21649602 - 05/07/15 03:28 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

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I was always more interested in the "word magic" thing that Burroughs talked about sometimes, how he could cut up newspapers and rearrange them and that had some mystical significance.  I don't believe in the more bold claims he makes but the base idea of words being somehow more than just simple sounds is interesting to me.  They are kinda like little spells that we use, and it is interesting to think about the extent and limits that this sort of influence can have over people.





What your refering to is called the "Cut Up Method" which was invented by Burroughs's good friend Brion Gysin

I feel like Burroughs and Gysin said that the idea was general created as a new style of writing and that the interesting and occasionally prophetic results where a mystery even to them

Ive given it a try with some old magazines a few years ago myself with some interesting results




Well he also wrote something else about how the right combination of words could kill someone, and that was vaguely connected to the cut-up method I think.  I forget the details or where I read about it.  The word-magic might not even have been in a book.

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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21651613 - 05/08/15 12:55 AM (9 years, 12 days ago)

I bought a palm sized 2" high tower buster a few months ago. I just left it on my floor the whole time. Now that I've handled it for a few minutes I want to say it does shift energy and give off a vibe; this feels much more subtle than some quartz I've handled but something's definitely going on (.... I think).

These giving miles and miles of shielding from emf or whatever sounds like bs, but idk.

about time to read more... some of these threads are mildly interesting.
http://www.warriormatrix.com/forum-5.html

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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: WaffleBear]
    #21652551 - 05/08/15 09:29 AM (9 years, 12 days ago)

Pyramids are stronger than orgone.


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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21652556 - 05/08/15 09:31 AM (9 years, 12 days ago)

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Stonehenge said:
Pyramids are stronger than orgone.





when referring to things that are hokey horse shit, they're really about equal

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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21653150 - 05/08/15 12:38 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

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Stonehenge said:
Pyramids are stronger than orgone.





when referring to things that are hokey horse shit, they're really about equal



Ya know that blue-ish looking tint that covers the sphere of the planet?:shrug:

Yea, that's orgone energy....:rofl:

Essence of life, chi, prana, life force....:lol:

It's always been there, it's what breathes life into your soul. :sun:


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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: HalluciNate]
    #21653178 - 05/08/15 12:43 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

There's some fuckery a foot here. But the fact that people will pay a few hundred dollars for a wooden box to sit in is great. I think I'm going to start building "orgone"  collectors


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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21653193 - 05/08/15 12:47 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

They are made of wood and metal

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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: Connoisseur]
    #21653218 - 05/08/15 12:51 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

If you'd like to do some real research on Reich's work here is a link to a number of thesis' based upon Orgone Energy.
http://www.orgonelab.org/bibliogDISS.htm


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Edited by TheGreenArrow (05/08/15 12:52 PM)

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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21653227 - 05/08/15 12:52 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

:feelsparanoidman:

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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21653241 - 05/08/15 12:55 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

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There's some fuckery a foot here. But the fact that people will pay a few hundred dollars for a wooden box to sit in is great. I think I'm going to start building "orgone"  collectors



There's a definite science behind orgone.:wizard:

From my perspective orgonite and orgone devices could be cheaper/free!:cookiemonster:

That might lift the stigma on these useful devices and bring more attention to the free energy community!:super:

Whatever your stance is, I can share my experience with this alchemical process.:strokebeard:

My experience has been nothing less of an eye-opening scientific endeavor which harbors hope for a free peoples of Earth!

:discorex:


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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: HalluciNate] * 1
    #21653254 - 05/08/15 12:57 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

Anecdotal evidence is not scientific evidence.


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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: TheGreenArrow] * 1
    #21653279 - 05/08/15 01:06 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

Follow that link.  Plenty of research has been done since Reich was slandered and imprisoned that has yielded positive results in favor of orgone energy.  :shrug:

Seriously think about it.  Does the FDA REALLY have your best interests at heart?  The same type of people claim cannabis has no medicinal value.


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invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a
sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an
equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.- Robert A. Heinlein
Saint RedBow of the Shroomey Loomey-Patron Saint of Sandbaggin Sumbitchs

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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21653299 - 05/08/15 01:13 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

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Follow that link.  Plenty of research has been done since Reich was slandered and imprisoned that has yielded positive results in favor of orgone energy.  :shrug:

Seriously think about it.  Does the FDA REALLY have your best interests at heart?  The same type of people claim cannabis has no medicinal value.




So now you're involving conspiracy theories?

Does the fuckery know no limits? :o

It's a placebo effect, same thing as those magical bracelets they make that supposedly make you better at sports.

They do, in fact, make you better at sports, but only because you think they do.

I clicked your link and it's just a bibliography?


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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21653310 - 05/08/15 01:17 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

Which of those theses is actually accessible to the public and contains solid evidence for the orgone theory?

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InvisiblePsychonautica
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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: koraks]
    #21653316 - 05/08/15 01:19 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

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Which of those theses is actually accessible to the public and contains solid evidence for the orgone theory?




This.

Scientific research papers please. Not just a badly put together website that looks like it a 90's conspiracy website.

The website you linked looks just like this one. : http://www.clausconspiracy.com/


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Sheekle said:
yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica

Edited by Psychonautica (05/08/15 01:21 PM)

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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: koraks]
    #21653322 - 05/08/15 01:20 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

Those aren't the only ones out there.  People have been doing these experiments with positive results since the 60's and have also used them as Master's thesis'.  But I'm not trying to convince anybody, just pointing out that the research exists if you're willing to look hard enough.


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invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a
sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an
equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.- Robert A. Heinlein
Saint RedBow of the Shroomey Loomey-Patron Saint of Sandbaggin Sumbitchs

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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21653326 - 05/08/15 01:23 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

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Those aren't the only ones out there.  People have been doing these experiments with positive results since the 60's and have also used them as Master's thesis'.  But I'm not trying to convince anybody, just pointing out that the research exists if you're willing to look hard enough.




I've been looking on google and I can't find anything.

I'm sure it's just the government covering everything up  :rolleyes:

I'd love to see a real source prove me wrong, but I can't find anything besides that joke of a website, haha.


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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21653327 - 05/08/15 01:23 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: Sham87]
    #21653348 - 05/08/15 01:29 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

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Reich believed that orgone energy is "demonstrable visually, thermically, electroscopically and by means of Geiger-Mueller counters."* However, only true believers in orgone energy (i.e., orgonomists practicing the science of orgonomy)  have been able to find success with the demonstrations.




Hmmm... Seems placebo, but I'll keep digging.


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Re: Orgone Energy [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21653350 - 05/08/15 01:29 PM (9 years, 12 days ago)

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I've been looking on google and I can't find anything.




yup, same here. Nothing except for a handful of articles in pseudoscientific journals.

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