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Methanol is POISON!!!!!

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As for reasons for extraction. Well you can extract cakes and not have to eat vermiculite. Less nausea. Less conspicous than a pound of shrooms sitting around, easier to eat one gell cap than 10 etc.

I can't think of any reason I would do this, but it is still nice to know, thanks bomb.

It would seem to me that ethanol would be much safer to use then methanol for this sort of Tec. So I will also have to add a word of cautions to anyone who?s planning to use methanol for this tec.
But, like I said above, ethanol is hard to find.

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"I think of myself as an intelligent, sensitive human being with the soul of a clown which always forces me to blow it at the most important moments." J.M.

Northern Touch Spores

Just ask the guy working at the store for Everclear, he'll know what you are talking about.

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Anyways, the Everclear would still work just as good, Right?? At least a lot of teks have said you could use it.

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Even better, plant the fucking cakes in the ground and see if you're lucky enough to have a yard full of pretty mushrooms in the near future...I did and I can tell you, the future isn't as far away as you think.
Don't shoot birds with air rifles, don't lie to children, don't fall in love with women who don't care about you at all...advice is worthless...you only learn by experience.

love...

I am was thinking about trying something simmilar to this tek. I was planning on doing it with just plain old 80 proof vodka. I know it wont be as concentrated because it wont evaporate as completely, but has anyone had success doing this? I am also interested in knowing where one would have to go to get methonal. Also would this tek work with fine cut fresh shrooms?

Thanks, and take care.

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Originally posted by hitterg:
Psychonaut- your right, why not use ethanol instead of methanol, and many teks call for ethanol. You were also right in your first post when you said methanol was hard to find, it is very hard to find, unless you know someone who can order it from a chemical supply company.
Ethanol is drinking alcohol. Otherwise known as EVERCLEAR. It is avalible at almost any Liquor store.It is 95% pure Ethanol,190 proof
Everclear is a more pure form of Moonshine.

Just ask the guy working at the store for Everclear, he'll know what you are talking about.

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ive seen methanol for sale at hardware stores and boat yards.

I ADVICE NO ONE TO ATTEMPT THE METHOD OF EXTRACTION DISCRIBED BY BOMB.

instead read the proper method of extract using methonal under grow/find - growing mushrooms - mycelium culture technique - the psilocybin producers guide a.k.a psilocybin production written by adam gottlieb

bomb your technique is as backward no offense, honestly just trying to help.

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E, it's whats for dinner!

Also, according to this, ethanol WILL still work if you can not find methanol. All of the articles that I have read said ethanol would work just fine.

I thought that all alcohol is a non-polar solvent, if this is true than any alcohol (other than denatured) should work, right?? It's just that the stronger it is, the better it will work.

Also, someone said "secondly you do not use methonal to extract psilocybin/psilocin from colonized cakes you are suppose to use methonal to extract psilo from mycelium alone or mushrooms." aren't CAKES a form of MYCELIUM?

Confusion!

as for your question let me clarify! cake are a substrate! mycelium is what colonizes the substrate. in the correct method of extracting the psilocybin from the mycelium discribed in "the psilocybin produces guide" it says the mycelium is first grown on agar, then the agar is filtered through a cloth inorder to remove the mycelium from the agar. then the agar is discarded and the mycelium is dried. WHY THE HELL ARE YOU ARGUING I TOLD YOU WHERE THE METHONAL EXTRACTION TECH IS LOCATED! if you would have actually read it you would not be confused. I HAVE PERSONALLY USED THIS TECHNIQUE. THE INFO FOR EXTRACTING PSILOCYBIN FROM THE MYCELIUM THAT IS POSTED UNDER "MYCELIUM CULTURE TECHNIQUES" COME FROM THE BOOK "PSILOCYBIN PRODUCTION" IF YOU WOULD READ IT YOU WOULD UNDER STAND! but since you are probably one of those people who dosen't even bother to research a subject before you engage in argument over a subject my bet is you didn't even bother skiming the correct technique!