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Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning?
    #2164834 - 12/06/03 05:18 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Due to Rono's recent threat of banning me due to racism, and my lack of ability to find any rule relating to said issue in the post that HE made ascribing the rules, I think I'll turn to a more democratic method. This is my first time ever putting up a poll, so if it isn't set up properly, I apologize in advance.

Do you think that the use of racial stereotypes (For example, refering to Mexicans and Negros as "Juan and Tyrone") is a valid reason for a ban? This does not mean to include flaming using racial slurs (For example, "you stupid ", mearly using a racial stereotype.

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Should Racism Be a Valid Excuse for a Ban?
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type="radio" name="option" value="2" />No.
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Also, rono, if you'd like to finally address my question and give us a working definition of "racism", with your assurance that you'll warn and ban ANYONE who violates it against ANY group of people, this would be an excellent place to do so. Thanks.



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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: enimatpyrt]
    #2164843 - 12/06/03 05:21 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

People that say "yes" to this are basically saying that freedom of speech should only include what they want it to. If you are one of those that rally against the PATRIOT act as being a tool to control the people that disagree with the establishments opinion, you really can only vote "no" for this. Thanks.


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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: enimatpyrt]
    #2164886 - 12/06/03 05:41 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

It might would have been better if this thread were about wether or not racism was an excuse for censorship.


In a messageboard situation, THat could be considered trolling, or baiting. On another messageboard, it might be trolling/baiting to ask if Jesus was black.


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Edited by Baby_Hitler (12/06/03 05:43 PM)

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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2164897 - 12/06/03 05:55 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

HOORAY! A great victory for censorship!


err... I mean "free market".


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"America: Fuck yeah!" -- Alexthegreat

“Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.”  -- Thomas Jefferson

The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance.

The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)

Edited by Baby_Hitler (12/06/03 05:57 PM)

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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: enimatpyrt]
    #2164931 - 12/06/03 06:17 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning?




Why?...Are you planning on spouting more racism despite being warned not to? Is it really necessary for me to make more forum rules? I only made two rules to keep it simple, under the assumption that those that post here would have enough common sense and intelligence that Racism wouldn't come into play...apparently I was wrong.

I would be more than happy to create a specific list of rules for this forum that both mods agree on...we have been extremely tolerant of alot of stuff that has no business in this forum...if you want to force us to review the only 2 rules of the forum...fine, we can always add more...


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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Rono]
    #2165040 - 12/06/03 07:28 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

If he wants to be racist, let him be racist. If that's what he believes in, I see no reason to censor it. The only damage that he'll do is to himself by making everyone realize what an ignorant bigot he is.


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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: enimatpyrt]
    #2165045 - 12/06/03 07:29 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

no, I think people that vote yes for this are tired of you...


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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: afoaf]
    #2165050 - 12/06/03 07:32 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

I think if he should be banned for anything, it should be for puppetry.


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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: enimatpyrt]
    #2165264 - 12/06/03 08:53 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

I think free speech should reign. People should say whatever they
want to as long as it is not overly insulting to other forum members.

As an aside...would racism against white people be punished as
harshly as racism against minorities in this forum?

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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2165276 - 12/06/03 08:58 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

silversoul7 said:
I think if he should be banned for anything, it should be for puppetry.



Bingo...


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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #2165392 - 12/06/03 09:47 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

shut up richy mcwhiterson








:smirk:


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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: afoaf]
    #2165398 - 12/06/03 09:51 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

afoaf said:
shut up richy mcwhiterson



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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: afoaf]
    #2165661 - 12/07/03 12:40 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

:razz: 

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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #2166106 - 12/07/03 08:43 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

:nut:


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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: afoaf]
    #2166458 - 12/07/03 12:34 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

People have the right not to be descriminated against in a public forum.. Referring to any race by racial slur's will get you absolutley nowhere.. People have names and calling by a made up a name based on a streotype is negligent.. I think that apply's to evrything including political orientation which I tend to see alot of here.. It makes me sick..

Edited by Bhairabas (12/07/03 12:36 PM)

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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Bhairabas]
    #2166948 - 12/07/03 04:14 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

If he was referring to any members here with racial slurs, that'd be one thing, but he's just making generally racist comments.


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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2166960 - 12/07/03 04:20 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

After reading Baby Hitler's post about banning emmigration I've changed my mind.. That post makes racial slur's look like nothing.. Just the fact that he can name himslef after a murderous dictator an then basicaly preach the same shit make's me wonder how the hell he get's to be a moderator..

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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Bhairabas]
    #2166970 - 12/07/03 04:22 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Please see my title for response.


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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Bhairabas]
    #2166989 - 12/07/03 04:30 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

What an angry lil' fella.


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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2167010 - 12/07/03 04:41 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

You might be surprized but racism and bigotry is generally not looked upon to be one of the more positve human virtues in this day and age..I have enough friends that have Immigrated to defend their honour when people are talking absolute bullshit trash about them and likeneing them to be pathetic and less capable of managing their destiny then someone who just happened to be born in America..

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