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Re: Black guy dead of police beating [Re: d33p]
    #2159394 - 12/04/03 10:02 PM (18 years, 6 days ago)

You're right,but I think it's safe to say that someone on a decent dose of dust isn't going to be doing acrobatics and devising cunning schemes. Most likely,they'll feel like they're being persecuted and will just flail there arms around willy nilly.


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Re: Black guy dead of police beating [Re: Zahid]
    #2159510 - 12/04/03 10:27 PM (18 years, 6 days ago)

Not racism --



















-- evolution in action.

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Re: Black guy dead of police beating [Re: Phred]
    #2159517 - 12/04/03 10:29 PM (18 years, 6 days ago)

Overuse of force? Possibly. Racism? Probably not.

You're not too familar with biology,are you Mark?


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Re: Black guy dead of police beating [Re: monoamine]
    #2159956 - 12/05/03 01:24 AM (18 years, 6 days ago)

It was a joke -- but not really.

The man killed himself, thus depriving the gene pool of his "stupidity" gene. Grossly overweight, out of shape, ingesting chemicals harmful to the body, then exerting himself strenuously enough in a no-win situation to stress his already-damaged heart to the point where it gave out. Yep -- a true rocket scientist.

Natural selection in action.

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Re: Black guy dead of police beating [Re: Phred]
    #2160001 - 12/05/03 01:39 AM (18 years, 6 days ago)

He didn't kill himself first of all.

Second of all,if you believe what you just said than it's obvious you have little knowledge of evolutionary theory.Evolution is basically random. Humans are more resistant to natural selection than ever before and more than any other animal because of our logic and control of our environment. The cultural "meme" has more to do with human evolution more than biology. And not many bioligists take Darwin's theory as he formulated it seriously anymore (see Steven Jay Gould).

According to your logic,if I murdered you and your family,it would just be natural selection.

I know it was a joke,but it's really cliche and trite and stupid. Every time someone does something dumb it's "just evolution in action". STFU.


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Re: Black guy dead of police beating [Re: monoamine]
    #2160036 - 12/05/03 01:55 AM (18 years, 6 days ago)

Un-natural selection perhaps then? A blessing none the less.


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Re: Black guy dead of police beating [Re: monoamine]
    #2160040 - 12/05/03 01:56 AM (18 years, 6 days ago)

monoamine writes:

He didn't kill himself first of all.

Yeah he did. If he'd done any one of the following things

a) looked after his body better
b) behaved himself
c) not resisted arrested arrest

he'd be alive today. He was responsible for his own death.

Second of all,if you believe what you just said than it's obvious you have little knowledge of evolutionary theory.Evolution is basically random.

Changes in attributes of individual members of species are believed to arise through random and spontaneous mutation, true. Like if this guy had six fingers on each hand, for example. However, the changing over time of entire species involves more than simply random mutation -- those members of the species bearing said mutations must first be capable of passing these mutations on to their offspring, and secondly survive long enough to pass these mutations on to their offspring. In addition, these changes must be of a significant enough advantage to the survival of the species that eventually those members of the species which do not possess the changes are crowded out and die off.

Humans are more resistant to natural selection than ever before and more than any other animal because of our logic and control of our environment.

And the terminally stupid are less logical and have less control of their environment (and often even of their own actions) than those of normal intelligence.

According to your logic,if I murdered you and your family,it would just be natural selection.

It would indeed. It may well turn out that the violent have more chance of surviving than the meek. Millennia from now, the human race may be as a whole considerably more violent than it is today for that very reason.

Every time someone does something dumb it's "just evolution in action".

Only if they do something fatally dumb.

Lighten up.

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Re: Black guy dead of police beating [Re: monoamine]
    #2160041 - 12/05/03 01:56 AM (18 years, 6 days ago)

Yes it is natural selection if you were able to overpower him and he was unable to defend himself. A violent form of survival of the fittest. And I also think that the fat fuck killed himself. He initiated the hostilities that resulted in his death. I don't feel sorry for that stupid fuck.



To sereotype cops is a stupid as steroetyping any other group. Some are good and in it for the right reasons, some are assholes that are on a power trip. I've had dealings with both.


I though I heard that they had used some sort of spray on him.


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Re: Black guy dead of police beating [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #2161937 - 12/05/03 04:44 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

"It would indeed. It may well turn out that the violent have more chance of surviving than the meek. Millennia from now, the human race may be as a whole considerably more violent than it is today for that very reason. "

I really did not expect you to say that, I have ti remebmer that one. You never said natural selectoin was a good thing! :laugh:

I do not think it is an example of rasism, or even if it was in part an act of rasism, I belive that the exact same thing would not have happened to him no matter what color he was.


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Re: Black guy dead of police beating [Re: domite]
    #2162247 - 12/05/03 06:13 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

domite writes:

I really did not expect you to say that, I have ti remebmer that one. You never said natural selectoin was a good thing!

"Good" or "bad" are terms irrelevant to the process of natural selection. Natural selection happens. That's all there is to say about it.

Fortunately, as monoamine correctly points out, humans have the ability to alter their environment to a significant degree. My philosophy holds that the best alteration humans can make to their environment is to thwart the violent -- to restrain and (in some cases) even eliminate them from the gene pool entirely.

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Re: Black guy dead of police beating [Re: Phred]
    #2162510 - 12/05/03 07:51 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

Obese People Protest Cincinnati Man's Death

(2003-12-03) -- Crowds of obese people took to the streets of Cincinnati tonight to protest the death of Nathaniel Jones. The 350-pound man died over the weekend during a violent struggle with local police while he was high on cocaine and PCP. The Hamilton County Coroner ruled the death a homicide, but said that doesn't mean the police did anything wrong.

But the coroner's explanation did little to calm the growing tension in the predominantly-obese neighborhood where Mr. Jones lived. Hundreds of people ranging in weight from 300-to-520 pounds chanted slogans as they slowly marched two blocks to the steps of police headquarters, stopping several times to catch their breath.

"I saw the video of those skinny cops wailing on Nathaniel with those clubs," said one unnamed protester. "They beat him because they're prejudiced. They hate fat people. Those cops are nothing but a bunch of pencil-necks."

One immense young man held a sign that said, "Police Brutality is a Huge Problem." A portly grandmother waved a placard which read: "I Can't Weight for Equal Justice."

Protest organizers said they'll demand an independent investigation of Mr. Jones' death, and get a court order requiring the Cincinnati police force to increase hiring of morbidly-obese officers.

http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/001394.html



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Re: Black guy dead of police beating [Re: Phred]
    #2162617 - 12/05/03 08:36 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

All cops are "fatists"!


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Re: Black guy dead of police beating [Re: Phred]
    #2162665 - 12/05/03 09:06 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)


Obese People Protest Cincinnati Man's Death

(2003-12-03) -- Crowds of obese people took to the streets of
Cincinnati tonight to protest the death of 350 pound Nathaniel Jones.


This just in off of the wire:

Inexplicable earthquake occurs in Cincinnati

(2003-12-03) -- Scientists are baffled by the sudden onset
of a 7.0 scale earthquake that seemed to spontaneously erupt
tonight.


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Re: Black guy dead of police beating [Re: Phred]
    #2162807 - 12/05/03 10:25 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

Wait until the people high on cocaine and PCP find out about this.


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Re: Black guy dead of police beating [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2162927 - 12/05/03 11:43 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

Quote:

As for alcohol, a lot could make you very uncoordinated but some people fight better drunk.




Yeah....

Proud to be irish.

I think I read that it's CHRONIC pcp use that really gets you that superhuman strength/delusion/etc thing.




Also:
beat ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bt)
v. beat, beat?en, (btn) or beat beat?ing, beats
v. tr.

1.
1. To strike repeatedly.
2. To subject to repeated beatings or physical abuse; batter.
3. To punish by hitting or whipping; flog.

So how exaclty is hitting someone with a nightstick a few times NOT beating?

I'm not arguing in that I don't really think the cops were wrong. They beat the guy cause he was resisting arrest. But he was definitely beaten.


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Re: Black guy dead of police beating [Re: Phred]
    #2164614 - 12/06/03 05:55 PM (18 years, 4 days ago)

Quote:

pinksharkmark said:
Not racism --



















-- evolution in action.

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Not racism...



















....sarcasm


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Re: Black guy dead of police beating [Re: Zahid]
    #2164780 - 12/06/03 06:57 PM (18 years, 4 days ago)

I would love to have an obese cop chase, fat pig, he would probably shoot me and then he will be called a "skinist" by all the skinny people.


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Re: Black guy dead of police beating [Re: downforpot]
    #2164789 - 12/06/03 07:01 PM (18 years, 4 days ago)

Most cops that I've had interactions with are, if not "obese", certaintly overweight.  When I was growing up, we always had "routes" planned from our treehouse (read; the tool shed of some guy that never used it where we'd get high and get drunk) back to our houses that involved lots of climbing through brush and jumping over fences. Lots of chases, no apprehensions :smile:


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