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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21645687 - 05/06/15 07:40 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

but people don't want to build any more and fuck any more Zappa, come on, be a pioneer man. :lolsy:

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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21645689 - 05/06/15 07:41 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

That's good news for the porn industry


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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21645734 - 05/06/15 07:47 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

oh that reminds me.










income disparity!

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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21645736 - 05/06/15 07:48 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

I read through the thread. You got destroyed, every single point you brought up as methodically and flawlessly shot down by Koraks and even Patlal. Literally the only thing you ever said in reply to any of that was the old republican go to about illegals destroying the country, you managed to blame the poor for everything exactly 5 times and went on to suggest the ludicrous notion the cutting every single person off welfare and buttoning up the borders would magically fix the economy, and in the face of any serious discussion you simply muttered something about bums and never addressed anything. It was pathetic.

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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21645779 - 05/06/15 07:55 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

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I read through the thread. You got destroyed, every single point you brought up as methodically and flawlessly shot down by Koraks and even Patlal. Literally the only thing you ever said in reply to any of that was the old republican go to about illegals destroying the country, you managed to blame the poor for everything exactly 5 times and went on to suggest the ludicrous notion the cutting every single person off welfare and buttoning up the borders would magically fix the economy, and in the face of any serious discussion you simply muttered something about bums and never addressed anything. It was pathetic.



Oh thank you.  We have now heard the judgment on my arguments from the left wing loon cohort.  I will accept that as what it always was.  A given.

Me making more money has exactly no negative impact on your income potential and in fact increases it because I will need more lawn care because I'm fucking busy doing something else that is more lucrative.  Bill Gates took nothing from you.  Neither did Steve Jobs or Warren Buffet.  Do you know who perpetrated a taking?  Every single welfare bum.


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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21645854 - 05/06/15 08:06 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

It does. koraks succinctly pointed out that huge concentrations of wealth are virtually never reinvested into society, or employed to create jobs. They're employed to concentrate even greater sums of money. It's economic stagnation.

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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21645902 - 05/06/15 08:14 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

If people worked their asses off or inherited a bunch of money they should be able to keep it.  It's not the riches responsibility to baby sit entire countries/communities.  People should have their basic needs taken care of by the government (food, shelter, healthcare ect ect) and after that you're on your own.  I think peoples expectations of life style are unreasonable and people should manage their expectations of how they live.  Everyone wants to get money but do nothing in return... that's how you bankrupt a country.


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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #21645939 - 05/06/15 08:20 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

It kind of is. Money is power and influence. Money dictates the direction of society. It's not a difficult concept to wrap your head around. The super rich need to be regulated to some degree or the disparity is only going to deepen and it's negative impacts intensify.

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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21645968 - 05/06/15 08:24 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

or people should get super rich by sacrificing their time for their country. hmmm which seems more fair and productive.
let me think.

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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21645985 - 05/06/15 08:26 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

I'm not saying welfare spending should increase. That's the last thing any country needs. Productive reinvestment for the broader good of society is what should be strived for.

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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21646001 - 05/06/15 08:29 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

It's not the responsibility of the rich to direct society anywhere.  "the rich" are just people like you and me.  Pay my taxes, go to work, enjoy leisure time and that's about it.  Governments are for attempting to direct society.


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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #21646020 - 05/06/15 08:32 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

OH CANADA

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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #21646031 - 05/06/15 08:33 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

They employ people. I can't think of a more direct relation to society.

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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21646044 - 05/06/15 08:35 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

more democratic businesses.

get more people over the world and back to produce more businesses, and there you go, problem solved.

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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21646060 - 05/06/15 08:39 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

I think the direction a society heads is in control by no one, except trends and fluxes of culture and technology.


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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #21646108 - 05/06/15 08:50 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

Ok let me put it into something you might easily relate too. There's approximately 3.5 million professional drivers in the US. The overhead to maintain each individual driver is around 60,000 plus benefits, and lost productivity through sick days and accidents. Put up against a computer that never tires and never fucks up any business out there would be insane to maintain a fleet of human drivers. Do you think it's a good idea to let business's do as they wish in this situation? Or should the government interfere?

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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21646124 - 05/06/15 08:53 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

ok, so stop the evil cat and motor vehicle companies and boycott them. do the responsible thing, and societilize!

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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21646133 - 05/06/15 08:55 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21646136 - 05/06/15 08:55 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

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Ok let me put it into something you might easily relate too. There's approximately 3.5 million professional drivers in the US. The overhead to maintain each individual driver is around 60,000 plus benefits, and lost productivity through sick days and accidents. Put up against a computer that never tires and never fucks up any business out there would be insane to maintain a fleet of human drivers. Do you think it's a good idea to let business's do as they wish in this situation? Or should the government interfere?



If you're trying to explain how rich people dictate where our society goes like you were arguing before, this isn't a very good example.  A rich person is NOT the same thing as a business.


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Re: Income disparity. What effects does it have really? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #21646149 - 05/06/15 08:57 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

This is an excellent example. 3.5 million jobs are on the line based on nothing more then the simple pursuit of profit for a few. Should we let it happen? Are 3.5 million jobs going to materialize out of nowhere within the next couple decades?

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