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lucid
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"I like pain" and other illogical statements...
#2164362 - 12/06/03 02:01 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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the statement "I like pain" is illogical... pain = unlikable by definition so "I like unlikable" is illogical... what most people REALLY mean when they say they "like pain" is that they associate desirability with a sensation usually/previously associated with being undesirable...
I get tired of explaining this to people... similar illogical statements are 1) Nirvana can get boring (then your not in Nirvana) 2) I enjoy my depression (then you're not depressed you simply enjoy the sensation of self-pity etc)
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sirreal
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Re: "I like pain" and other illogical statements... [Re: lucid]
#2164375 - 12/06/03 02:06 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I love hate....
-------------------- I may not always tell the truth, but atleast I'm honest ----------- I see what everyone is saying. It is so hard to form an opinion when you see both sides so clearly!
Edited by sirreal (12/06/03 02:07 PM)
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lucid
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Re: "I like pain" and other illogical statements... [Re: sirreal]
#2164407 - 12/06/03 02:16 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
sirreal said: I love hate....
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggg........ yea, that's another one of those...
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learning_byte
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Re: "I like pain" and other illogical statements... [Re: sirreal]
#2164414 - 12/06/03 02:20 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why you assume pain is "unlikeble", that depends on the person and the situation, and also what kind of pain.
Like a girl that likes to be choked up when having sex, that is painful and she fucking loves it, but i think she wouldn't like it when she is walking down the street. Or when some people cut their nails way too much, it is fucking painfull but they love it.
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Viaggio
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Re: "I like pain" and other illogical statements... [Re: learning_byte]
#2164455 - 12/06/03 02:42 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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i do not like pain, but for a retort...before you label something unlikable, you must first define what unlikable is.
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lucid
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Re: "I like pain" and other illogical statements... [Re: Viaggio]
#2164601 - 12/06/03 03:47 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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dang guys, don't u see I'm talking about how things are first definied and then used in a contradictory way...
learning_byte: I'm not "assuming" pain is unlikable, I'm saying it's defined that way ! viaggio : same thing, I'm not labeling pain as unlikable, I'm saying it's defined that way !
let's not get into a chicken and egg which came first the definition or the meaning thing here...
if pain is synonymous with undesirable then it's illogical to say that it's desriable... end of story...
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Re: "I like pain" and other illogical statements... [Re: lucid]
#2164631 - 12/06/03 04:02 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pain is not defined as unlikable. It is defined as the perception by our brains of damage being done to the periphery of the body through the nervous system. Like or dislike is then completely up to the brain to decide. Normally it's "dislike" because it's in our best interest to keep the body intact, but masochists are certainly free to like whatever they want.
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Viaggio
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Re: "I like pain" and other illogical statements... [Re: Shizpow]
#2164702 - 12/06/03 04:37 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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defining what is likable is determined on an individual basis. but i know what you mean...
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