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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#21640478 - 05/05/15 05:32 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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zZZz said: i am all for the theory of evolution, i am just saying it can't ever be proved 100%. no matter what evidence u dig up. we can't ever prove for certain what went down.
It can't be proven 100% because you would need to live at least 1 million years to see evolution in full action. All we have is all this tons of evidence.
Can anything even be proven 100 percent?
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Psychonautica]
#21640489 - 05/05/15 05:33 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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yes absolutely. just not evolution. u would need a time machine for that, and even then it will still remain uncertain because time travel is uncertain..
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: zZZz]
#21640495 - 05/05/15 05:34 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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zZZz said: yes absolutely. just not evolution. u would need a time machine for that, and even then it will still remain uncertain because time travel is uncertain..
Name one thing you can prove 100 percent?
There's always a chance that you're wrong. All we ever have is substantial amounts of evidence, to which you can then make a conclusion.
Even if you have a time machine, and went back and saw it, one could argue that what you saw was hallucinations, caused by time travel's effect on the psyche and human mind.
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Psychonautica]
#21640519 - 05/05/15 05:38 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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i can prove to u that i don't know anything for certain..
try me..
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Psychonautica]
#21640521 - 05/05/15 05:39 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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zZZz said: yes absolutely. just not evolution. u would need a time machine for that, and even then it will still remain uncertain because time travel is uncertain..
Name one thing you can prove 100 percent?
There's always a chance that you're wrong. All we ever have is substantial amounts of evidence, to which you can then make a conclusion.
Even if you have a time machine, and went back and saw it, one could argue that what you saw was hallucinations, caused by time travel's effect on the psyche and human mind.
We orbit around the sun. That's a fact and it has been proven.
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: zZZz] 1
#21640523 - 05/05/15 05:39 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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zZZz said: i can prove to u that i don't know anything for certain..
try me..
You win this round, very clever sir.
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#21640528 - 05/05/15 05:40 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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the sun burns like hell if u stand under it for too long, that's 100% fact..
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#21640531 - 05/05/15 05:41 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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zZZz said: yes absolutely. just not evolution. u would need a time machine for that, and even then it will still remain uncertain because time travel is uncertain..
Name one thing you can prove 100 percent?
There's always a chance that you're wrong. All we ever have is substantial amounts of evidence, to which you can then make a conclusion.
Even if you have a time machine, and went back and saw it, one could argue that what you saw was hallucinations, caused by time travel's effect on the psyche and human mind.
We orbit around the sun. That's a fact and it has been proven.
Oh yeah? We'll I argue that the point we're actually orbiting around is actually just right next to the sun, so close that math and observation makes you feel like you're actually orbiting around the sun. We're actually orbiting around the space, that is less than nanometers away from the sun.
My point being that, even when something is a scientific fact, we don't know it for certain. So ruling out something because of that reason is silly.
More like, we're 99.9 percent sure of things
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Psychonautica]
#21640533 - 05/05/15 05:41 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: zZZz] 1
#21640538 - 05/05/15 05:42 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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zZZz said: but yet it is a fact..
aint no half steppin in facts..
btw anyone remember pluto?
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zZZz said: yes absolutely. just not evolution. u would need a time machine for that, and even then it will still remain uncertain because time travel is uncertain..
There is unimaginable tons of evidence, you don't need a time machine to prove something that you know is true. That's why is considered a fact now.
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: zZZz]
#21640539 - 05/05/15 05:42 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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zZZz said: the sun burns like hell if u stand under it for too long, that's 100% fact..
This is objective.
Also you guys missed the point of what I was saying, or you understood the point of what I said and are now just trolling. Not sure which.
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Psychonautica]
#21640553 - 05/05/15 05:45 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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zZZz said: yes absolutely. just not evolution. u would need a time machine for that, and even then it will still remain uncertain because time travel is uncertain..
Name one thing you can prove 100 percent?
There's always a chance that you're wrong. All we ever have is substantial amounts of evidence, to which you can then make a conclusion.
Even if you have a time machine, and went back and saw it, one could argue that what you saw was hallucinations, caused by time travel's effect on the psyche and human mind.
We orbit around the sun. That's a fact and it has been proven.
Oh yeah? We'll I argue that the point we're actually orbiting around is actually just right next to the sun, so close that math and observation makes you feel like you're actually orbiting around the sun. We're actually orbiting around the space, that is less than nanometers away from the sun.
My point being that, even when something is a scientific fact, we don't know it for certain. So ruling out something because of that reason is silly.
More like, we're 99.9 percent sure of things
We orbit around the sun, but the sun is orbiting the galaxy. So the sun is not static is moving at 70000 km/h trough the galaxy and is dragging the planets with it. But they still orbiting the sun.
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Psychonautica]
#21640568 - 05/05/15 05:48 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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zZZz said: the sun burns like hell if u stand under it for too long, that's 100% fact..
This is objective.
it's true tho isn't it?..
no research is necessary, just go stand out there and you'll see for yourself..
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#21640574 - 05/05/15 05:50 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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zZZz said: i am all for the theory of evolution, i am just saying it can't ever be proved 100%. no matter what evidence u dig up. we can't ever prove for certain what went down.
It can't be proven 100% because you would need to live at least 1 million years to see evolution in full action. All we have is all this tons of evidence.
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zZZz said: but yet it is a fact..
aint no half steppin in facts..
btw anyone remember pluto?
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zZZz said: but yet it is a fact..
aint no half steppin in facts..
btw anyone remember pluto?
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zZZz said: yes absolutely. just not evolution. u would need a time machine for that, and even then it will still remain uncertain because time travel is uncertain..
There is unimaginable tons of evidence, you don't need a time machine to prove something that you know is true. That's why is considered a fact now.
You remind me this creationist girl chatting with richard dawkins
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#21640576 - 05/05/15 05:50 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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zZZz said: yes absolutely. just not evolution. u would need a time machine for that, and even then it will still remain uncertain because time travel is uncertain..
Name one thing you can prove 100 percent?
There's always a chance that you're wrong. All we ever have is substantial amounts of evidence, to which you can then make a conclusion.
Even if you have a time machine, and went back and saw it, one could argue that what you saw was hallucinations, caused by time travel's effect on the psyche and human mind.
We orbit around the sun. That's a fact and it has been proven.
It still isn't 100% definite. We are just human beings, a few steps up from rats and ants... Our brains are very useless when you start to think about things like hyperdymensions and what not... When you think you are proving something, you are simply trusting your brain. Your brain can't prove anything, because all brains are different and work differently.
If this isn't making sense, maybe this will. In theoretical physics, "space" (not the universe) is infinite. That means an infinite amount of things could happen, such as an exact copy of our universe where the Earth somehow isn't spinning around the sun. It could even be possible that in a copy of out universe that the earth just appears to spin around the sun, but it really isn't You don't know why, because the brain cannot comprehend shit like that.
At the end of the day, nothing is for sure. When you talk about proving something, you are simply making an assumption that your brain is correct. Our brains could have evolved a bazillion different ways, and each different possible way would be a different perception , and with each perception comes with it's own proofs.
Hell we could even have 6 senses, how the fuck are you supposed to know what it could have done? Maybe it could be some sense that actually has the ability to REALLY proove something... you never know
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#21640603 - 05/05/15 05:57 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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Mr. Alien said: You remind me this creationist girl chatting with richard dawkins
i'm not even into the whole creationism stuff, but i'd say it is about as true as evolution..
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: zZZz] 1
#21640608 - 05/05/15 05:59 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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You can prove evolution in a Petri dish in less than a year.
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#21640625 - 05/05/15 06:02 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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Richard Dawkins is kind of a twat though.
As smart as he his, he's hindered by his closed mind.
He claims that atoms cannot have consciousness, for one. He claims to know this for absolute certainty
Like what? How can you even say that?
(I'm not saying that atoms have consciousness, just that it's silly to rule out that possibility)
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Psychonautica]
#21640658 - 05/05/15 06:07 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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Psychonautica said: Richard Dawkins is kind of a twat though.
As smart as he his, he's hindered by his closed mind.
He claims that atoms cannot have consciousness, for one. He claims to know this for absolute certainty
Like what? How can you even say that?
(I'm not saying that atoms have consciousness, just that it's silly to rule out that possibility)
omg do you seriously believe all that shit of deepak chopra that atoms have conciouness and quantum healing and all that shit of that charlatan?
Atoms don't have consciousness i can assure that too. That's something we adquiere when our brains reach certain level of intelligence.
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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#21640700 - 05/05/15 06:14 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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Psychonautica said: Richard Dawkins is kind of a twat though.
As smart as he his, he's hindered by his closed mind.
He claims that atoms cannot have consciousness, for one. He claims to know this for absolute certainty
Like what? How can you even say that?
(I'm not saying that atoms have consciousness, just that it's silly to rule out that possibility)
omg do you seriously believe all that shit of deepak chopra that atoms have conciouness and quantum healing and all that shit of that charlatan?
Atoms don't have consciousness i can assure that too. That's something we adquiere when our brains reach certain level of intelligence.
(I'm not saying that atoms have consciousness, just that it's silly to rule out that possibility)
In all reality, atoms MOST LIKELY don't have consciousness, but ruling that out is just ignorant.
I've heard theories that even we don't have consciousness, consciousness is an energy in the universe, like light, and our brains just interpret this energy. like an antenna, Different animals have better antennae, and this also explains why a head injury, (damage to the antennae) would effect your consciousness (the signal coming in)
I'M NOT SAYING I BELIEVE ANY OF THIS FUCKERY
But ruling it out, with no evidence, is ignorant.
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