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Pipe Dream for one near death
    #21636826 - 05/04/15 08:41 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

I recently heard that a friend of a friend of mine was just given 6 months to a year to live, thanks to Leukemia. I don't know all the details, but I know this isn't the first time the person has dealt with it. I don't think Chemo is benefiting this person anymore.

When I first heard it, I was really bummed out. I'm sure this is going to be very tough on my friend. After telling myself that I was going to be there for her and all of that, another thought occurred to me. I remembered all of things I've read about how MDMA, Psilocybin, and LSD can help those near death come to terms with their situation. I wish that I was able to help them out in this way. I can only hope someone will do in the same for me if I'm ever in that situation. Unfortunately, I realize this isn't much more than a pipe dream. 


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Tl;dr: Friend of a friend was given 6 months to a year to live. I would like to give them psychs to help them, but realize this is not possible.


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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Drumdude27]
    #21636838 - 05/04/15 08:43 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

I wouldn't advise giving strong hallucinogens to an inexperienced, dieing person. I hear it works but it honestly sounds like a terrible idea.

Just imagine if they freaked out and they were schizo for the rest of their short life. That's be terrible.


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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Drumdude27]
    #21636857 - 05/04/15 08:47 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

Why isn't it possible?


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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Sheekle]
    #21636866 - 05/04/15 08:49 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

you don't get shizophrenia from psychs you get it from speed this is well documented

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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Sheekle]
    #21636888 - 05/04/15 08:54 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

Just to clarify:
I have no plans of doing this, and completely understand the risks that would hypothetically be involved.

It's not possible because I don't know the person in question at all. I can't exactly just pop into someone's life through a mutual acquaintance and say "Hey, real bummer about the diagnosis, now lay down and pop these in your mouth".

This isn't for me. I don't want to play the hero that came along and helped said person after receiving a diagnosis like that. I just had a moment of empathy, and wished they could experience something that would help them during this period.
These are just my musings  :shrug:


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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Konyap]
    #21636897 - 05/04/15 08:57 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

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Illyabo said:
you don't get shizophrenia from psychs you get it from speed this is well documented



OP didn't say anything about that man haha


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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Konyap]
    #21636907 - 05/04/15 09:00 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

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you don't get shizophrenia from psychs you get it from speed this is well documented



Never heard of the speed thing. and...psychedelics can trigger underlying mental conditions. Therefore... schizophrenia.


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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Sheekle]
    #21636914 - 05/04/15 09:03 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

While many, many people agree psychs can lead to schizophrenic symptoms/episodes etc, the point of this post was geared towards the recent studies that have found that certain substances, under the right circumstances, can lead people to live better lives and accept their diagnoses.

I didn't think I had to explicitly state that in the OP. This being said, can we move on?
Don't misinterpret my tone, I'm not mad. I just hoped this thread would go in a completely different direction.


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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Drumdude27]
    #21636920 - 05/04/15 09:04 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

Quote:

Drumdude27 said:
While many, many people agree psychs can lead to schizophrenic symptoms/episodes etc, the point of this post was geared towards the recent studies that have found that certain substances, under the right circumstances, can lead people to live better lives and accept their diagnoses.

I didn't think I had to explicitly state that in the OP. This being said, can we move on?
Don't misinterpret my tone, I'm not mad. I just hoped this thread would go in a completely different direction.



Well mostly I wanted you to know that it's perhaps not the best idea, and to not feel upset about it.


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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Drumdude27]
    #21636921 - 05/04/15 09:04 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

LSD rules


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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Sheekle]
    #21636926 - 05/04/15 09:05 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

LSD helped me get out of a pretty low point I've been in lately. This past Saturday I tripped for the first time in months and laughed about a thousand pounds of laughter throughout the day, I've been in a generally awesome mood since.


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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Drumdude27] * 1
    #21636928 - 05/04/15 09:06 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

you people litterally have no idea how schizophrenia works to be saying it's from psyche's I am physically laughing right now if you think being blank and having a stroke is similar to having a part of your brain doing a commentary on your life from a pessimist view

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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Konyap]
    #21636937 - 05/04/15 09:07 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

R U TROLLING :kingcrankey:


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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Konyap]
    #21636941 - 05/04/15 09:08 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

Quote:

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you people litterally have no idea how schizophrenia works to be saying it's from psyche's I am physically laughing right now if you think being blank and having a stroke is similar to having a part of your brain doing a commentary on your life from a pessimist view



Once a fucking gain...I never said it caused schizophrenia. Shit, have you people even read the info pages on here?


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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Konyap]
    #21636947 - 05/04/15 09:09 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

Everyone needs those every once in a while Sheekle. But what do you think, should I just kill this thread? I didn't post this to have a debate over psychs and mental illness


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Don't make me get the FemNazis involved guys.

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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Drumdude27]
    #21636967 - 05/04/15 09:12 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

I dunno I wouldn't delete it personally, maybe it'll go somewhere maybe not :shrug:

I def think psychedelic drugs can be really useful for end of life anxiety and shit, although I've  got no direct first-hand experience with it, they're renewed my zest for life numerous times before


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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Drumdude27]
    #21636973 - 05/04/15 09:13 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

I have no personal experience with anything close to end of life. I'm going off of what I've read. I can imagine they could help though, if done right of course.


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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Drumdude27] * 1
    #21636982 - 05/04/15 09:16 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

Let's keep the discussion to whether psychedelics would help someone deal with death or other major trauma.


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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Drumdude27]
    #21636993 - 05/04/15 09:17 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

It would be really cool if they could get mdma from a therapist or something but I don't know how that'd work
and to get the effects you want from shrooms they could be really trippy or really thought numbing, in my mind not so great more of something that's dangerously fun of course being completely safe...
again different shrooms different effects, not the same as mdma just freaky weird lol

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Re: Pipe Dream for one near death [Re: Konyap]
    #21637008 - 05/04/15 09:19 PM (9 years, 16 days ago)

I tend to have really negative thoughts on shrooms. I can't imagine it would help in this case


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