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copy right and pattent laws
#21629504 - 05/03/15 10:48 AM (9 years, 17 days ago) |
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What is the point of these laws? Don't these laws hinder creativity?
Explain. School me.
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Enlil
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They encourage innovation. Without IP law, you could spend a billion dollars inventing a gadget that made cars run on air, and within days, there would be dozens of companies selling that gadget. They'd be able to sell it cheaper than you, too, because they didn't spend a billion inventing it.
IP laws allow people to make profit off of their creations. Profit motive is a strong reason to create new things.
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Re: copy right and pattent laws [Re: Enlil]
#21631178 - 05/03/15 06:12 PM (9 years, 17 days ago) |
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Then the Chinese steal the blueprints for the f-35 and f-22 and make the Shenyang J-31 stealth fighter.
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Byrain

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Re: copy right and pattent laws [Re: Enlil]
#21633743 - 05/04/15 08:45 AM (9 years, 16 days ago) |
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Enlil said: They encourage innovation. Without IP law, you could spend a billion dollars inventing a gadget that made cars run on air, and within days, there would be dozens of companies selling that gadget. They'd be able to sell it cheaper than you, too, because they didn't spend a billion inventing it.
IP laws allow people to make profit off of their creations. Profit motive is a strong reason to create new things.
Not true, only patents are aimed at innovation, there is nothing inherently innovating about copy right. IP laws are a very broad category that does more to mislead than explain what all the very different laws included are about. Here is a good in depth article on this subject which is applicable whether you agree or disagree with the author's views.
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html
Edit: Some excerpts for those with a short attention span...
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For instance, copyright law was designed to promote authorship and art, and covers the details of expression of a work. Patent law was intended to promote the publication of useful ideas, at the price of giving the one who publishes an idea a temporary monopoly over it
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In practice, nearly all general statements you encounter that are formulated using “intellectual property” will be false. For instance, you'll see claims that “its” purpose is to “promote innovation”, but that only fits patent law and perhaps plant variety monopolies. Copyright law is not concerned with innovation; a pop song or novel is copyrighted even if there is nothing innovative about it. Trademark law is not concerned with innovation; if I start a tea store and call it “rms tea”, that would be a solid trademark even if I sell the same teas in the same way as everyone else. Trade secret law is not concerned with innovation, except tangentially; my list of tea customers would be a trade secret with nothing to do with innovation.
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Re: copy right and pattent laws [Re: Byrain]
#21633759 - 05/04/15 08:50 AM (9 years, 16 days ago) |
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Copyright doesn't encourage innovation as much as it encourages creativity. Still, it does create an incentive for people to create.
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Byrain

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Re: copy right and pattent laws [Re: Enlil]
#21633775 - 05/04/15 08:55 AM (9 years, 16 days ago) |
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You should read the article, that point was covered rather well. To reiterate, copyright is more concerned with authorship than innovation, for example there is nothing innovating about most stuff on mainstream media even though it is copyrighted.
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Enlil
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Re: copy right and pattent laws [Re: Byrain]
#21633815 - 05/04/15 09:04 AM (9 years, 16 days ago) |
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I know. I already said that copyright is more about encouraging creativity and not so much innovation. Any innovation in a work of art can be used by other artists, so there's no real protection there. Still, copyright allows an artist to control his/her art and make money from it if that's what he/she wants to do.
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