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kn33b
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Q about starting bulk monotub
#21630082 - 05/03/15 01:08 PM (9 years, 17 days ago) |
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I can't seem to find any specifics about how to start a bulk monotub and was wondering if I am doing it wrong. I've got tons of information but it's all bits and pieces from different authors and I'm hoping someone with experience can help me fill in the gaps.
So, I've inoculated half pint jars of grain and they're colonizing. Once done colonizing, I break it up and mix with pasteurized hpoo/verm/gypsum and let them colonize more in the tub with GE but no FAE? Then I wait a week or so and add an optional casing layer and stuff poly fill for FAE?
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Re: Q about starting bulk monotub [Re: kn33b] 1
#21630094 - 05/03/15 01:11 PM (9 years, 17 days ago) |
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Sounds like you are on the right train of thought. Make sure to follow a tried and true tek. I'd upgrade those hp jars to quart jars soon. It will make your life much easier.
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Mad Season
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Re: Q about starting bulk monotub [Re: kn33b]
#21630101 - 05/03/15 01:12 PM (9 years, 17 days ago) |
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Yes but you'll need a lot of half pints for 1 66 qt tub. Most people use 5+qts which is 20+ 1/2 pints.
You tape the holes for colonization and stuff poly for fruiting
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Buck513

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Re: Q about starting bulk monotub [Re: Mad Season]
#21630117 - 05/03/15 01:17 PM (9 years, 17 days ago) |
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You could even put poly in the holes straight after spawning to bulk. Doesn't matter a whole lot.
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Re: Q about starting bulk monotub [Re: kn33b]
#21630123 - 05/03/15 01:19 PM (9 years, 17 days ago) |
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Thanks guys. Any advice since its PE? I've only done GT cakes (which were mind melting, world bending, window licking potent) thus far. I heard PE is a slow colonizer and needs longer consolidation time to give full flushes. Wondering what that looks like exactly.
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Re: Q about starting bulk monotub [Re: Mad Season]
#21630127 - 05/03/15 01:20 PM (9 years, 17 days ago) |
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Mad Season said: Yes but you'll need a lot of half pints for 1 66 qt tub. Most people use 5+qts which is 20+ 1/2 pints.
You tape the holes for colonization and stuff poly for fruiting
Don't tape all the holes. I tape bottom holes up and leave the top ones stuffed with poly for GE.
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Re: Q about starting bulk monotub [Re: RyeJar]
#21630129 - 05/03/15 01:22 PM (9 years, 17 days ago) |
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Well I have shabby Walmart monos with lids that just rest on top and don't snap on so I get my GE from the lid. If it was a snap on lid it'd be a great idea to stuff poly on top holes
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Buck513

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Re: Q about starting bulk monotub [Re: RyeJar]
#21630134 - 05/03/15 01:23 PM (9 years, 17 days ago) |
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I think consolidation of tubs serves little purpose. The tub will produce mushrooms when its ready to. My only advice for pe would be to case it, it tends to help with blobs.
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Re: Q about starting bulk monotub [Re: kn33b]
#21630141 - 05/03/15 01:26 PM (9 years, 17 days ago) |
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RyeJar said:
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Mad Season said: Yes but you'll need a lot of half pints for 1 66 qt tub. Most people use 5+qts which is 20+ 1/2 pints.
You tape the holes for colonization and stuff poly for fruiting
Don't tape all the holes. I tape bottom holes up and leave the top ones stuffed with poly for GE.
I tape all the holes until fully colonized......you want around 10,000ppm to 20,000ppm co2 during colonization, and less than 1000ppm for fruiting.....
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kn33b said: Thanks guys. Any advice since its PE? I've only done GT cakes (which were mind melting, world bending, window licking potent) thus far. I heard PE is a slow colonizer and needs longer consolidation time to give full flushes. Wondering what that looks like exactly.
I have grown PE for a while.....it does not colonize any slower or faster than any other cube on average.....and it doesn't really need consolidation.....it will most likely take longer to pin, and the fruits grow a bit slower as well.......that's about it.....
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kn33b
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Re: Q about starting bulk monotub [Re: Buck513]
#21630142 - 05/03/15 01:26 PM (9 years, 17 days ago) |
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Buck513 said: I think consolidation of tubs serves little purpose. The tub will produce mushrooms when its ready to. My only advice for pe would be to case it, it tends to help with blobs.
Nice, thank you. Would coir/verm work for casing?
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Re: Q about starting bulk monotub [Re: PussyFart]
#21630155 - 05/03/15 01:29 PM (9 years, 17 days ago) |
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PussyFart said:
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RyeJar said:
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Mad Season said: Yes but you'll need a lot of half pints for 1 66 qt tub. Most people use 5+qts which is 20+ 1/2 pints.
You tape the holes for colonization and stuff poly for fruiting
Don't tape all the holes. I tape bottom holes up and leave the top ones stuffed with poly for GE.
I tape all the holes until fully colonized......you want around 10,000ppm to 20,000ppm co2 during colonization, and less than 1000ppm for fruiting.....
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kn33b said: Thanks guys. Any advice since its PE? I've only done GT cakes (which were mind melting, world bending, window licking potent) thus far. I heard PE is a slow colonizer and needs longer consolidation time to give full flushes. Wondering what that looks like exactly.
I have grown PE for a while.....it does not colonize any slower or faster than any other cube on average.....and it doesn't really need consolidation.....it will most likely take longer to pin, and the fruits grow a bit slower as well.......that's about it.....
i'd suggest following franks guides, someone link the guy
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Re: Q about starting bulk monotub [Re: PussyFart]
#21630157 - 05/03/15 01:29 PM (9 years, 17 days ago) |
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PussyFart said:
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RyeJar said:
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Mad Season said: Yes but you'll need a lot of half pints for 1 66 qt tub. Most people use 5+qts which is 20+ 1/2 pints.
You tape the holes for colonization and stuff poly for fruiting
Don't tape all the holes. I tape bottom holes up and leave the top ones stuffed with poly for GE.
I tape all the holes until fully colonized......you want around 10,000ppm to 20,000ppm co2 during colonization, and less than 1000ppm for fruiting.....
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kn33b said: Thanks guys. Any advice since its PE? I've only done GT cakes (which were mind melting, world bending, window licking potent) thus far. I heard PE is a slow colonizer and needs longer consolidation time to give full flushes. Wondering what that looks like exactly.
I have grown PE for a while.....it does not colonize any slower or faster than any other cube on average.....and it doesn't really need consolidation.....it will most likely take longer to pin, and the fruits grow a bit slower as well.......that's about it.....
Thanks. I've actually gotten a lot of momentum from your responses in other threads. My cakes are doing great. Made some mistakes but I've got excellent results and the potency is out of this world! But as far as monos go, it seems like I'm gonna finally have to get some practice pasteurizing. I want to use agar to isolate from this batch since PE is gonna be my main thang.
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RyeJar
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Re: Q about starting bulk monotub [Re: PussyFart]
#21630174 - 05/03/15 01:35 PM (9 years, 17 days ago) |
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PussyFart said:
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RyeJar said:
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Mad Season said: Yes but you'll need a lot of half pints for 1 66 qt tub. Most people use 5 qts which is 20 1/2 pints.
You tape the holes for colonization and stuff poly for fruiting
Don't tape all the holes. I tape bottom holes up and leave the top ones stuffed with poly for GE.
I tape all the holes until fully colonized......you want around 10,000ppm to 20,000ppm co2 during colonization, and less than 1000ppm for fruiting.....
So when you tape all holes your co2 meter registers 20,000 compared to what when you don't tape? I wish I had a co2 meter.
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Re: Q about starting bulk monotub [Re: RyeJar]
#21630201 - 05/03/15 01:43 PM (9 years, 17 days ago) |
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I do not have a co2 meter, but people who do have recorded the results....you can do a simple search for "co2 ppm" and check the "Trusted Cultivator" box to refine the results.....
Mycellium produces lots of co2, and when confined, the amount of it in the air occupying the chamber goes up.....
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RyeJar
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Re: Q about starting bulk monotub [Re: PussyFart]
#21630213 - 05/03/15 01:47 PM (9 years, 17 days ago) |
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PussyFart said: I do not have a co2 meter, but people who do have recorded the results....you can do a simple search for "co2 ppm" and check the "Trusted Cultivator" box to refine the results.....
Mycellium produces lots of co2, and when confined, the amount of it in the air occupying the chamber goes up.....
Thanks. I'll definitely look that up.
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