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glimpee
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Allowing your eyes to assume, Over/Under stimulation of your eyes and control of the trip
#21617490 - 04/30/15 01:00 PM (9 years, 20 days ago) |
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So I've been tripping a while and I've been testing the limits of my mind on and off psychedelics.
I believe the majority of visuals that come from psychedelics come from either 1. Over analyzation and overstimulation of the eyes or 2. Under stimulation of the eyes. When you overstimulate, you get stuff like fractals, layers of moving stuff, etc. When you under stimulate, you assume things that aren't there
This is where things gets interesting
If you know how to harness the under/overstimulation of your eyes, you CAN hallucinate easily and you CAN manipulate the physical world (from your perceptive)
I did something really cool on my trip yesterday that further emphasized this
I was in my car, just posted in a parking lot with a friend. I decided to close my eyes. Because I'm tripping and moving my eyeballs under my lids, they slightly pop open. Because the very bottom of my vision sees part of my car - I was able to COMPLETELY perceive a trippy version of the interior of my car. There were some differences though. Like the speedometer was a completely different style. What was even cooler, is that I tried waving my hand in front of my face to see it, but I only saw the stub of an arm and a blur - no hand. Over time, the hand began to take a twister - dream-like shape.
Now, things get even MORE interesting.
I took this teqnique back home. It was easiest to do when my eyes would pop open a sliver and see a little bit of my surroundings, but I could do it without opening my eyes at all.
So the first time I tried this inside, I envisioned my car again. And it worked! While inside my house! So I knew I was for sure onto something
So I stood up and looked over my room, closed my eyes, and tried to see more
My eyes created a new room, including 3 really trippy really big recliners with lots of cloths on them
Even better, when I tried this technique in my tool-area of my basement - I was able to perceive in detail armoirs, mirrors, stacks of pillows, you name it! Every time I adjusted my vision some stuff would disappear and others would take it's place!
I haven't tried this while sober, yet, but the key is not forcing it, at all. If its not naturally happening as you briefly shut off your mind, start to move your eyes around under the lids until the eyeball causes the bottom of the lid to "pop" and then either leave it slightly open or close it, doesn't matter.
But I also did other cool stuff like make a table disappear, perceive a wall right infant of my face. But I could not get an animal or human to take form, not even my dog who's face I know like the back of my hand
But what do you think?
Are visuals just do to our eyes picking up different messages than normal, or the part of our brain that filters unnecessary info maybe stops working as hard?
Is the title of this thread horrible?
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thoraxx
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Re: Allowing your eyes to assume, Over/Under stimulation of your eyes and control of the trip [Re: glimpee]
#21617510 - 04/30/15 01:06 PM (9 years, 20 days ago) |
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I havent tried it, but people have reported hallucinations in sensory deprivation tanks And where would deliriants fit in here, where people might not even realize theyre hallucinating wildly
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glimpee
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Re: Allowing your eyes to assume, Over/Under stimulation of your eyes and control of the trip [Re: thoraxx]
#21617573 - 04/30/15 01:27 PM (9 years, 20 days ago) |
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thoraxx said: I havent tried it, but people have reported hallucinations in sensory deprivation tanks And where would deliriants fit in here, where people might not even realize theyre hallucinating wildly
What I find interesting in the planned control over the senses that come fourth in sensory deprivation tanks - to make your own reality
Im a cartoonist/musician, so I hope I'll be able to see my imagination and hear the songs in my head.
But if you slowly allow yourself to assume more and more - eventually you can likely have a sensory deprivation experience while sober. Probably.
Im not sure I'm 100% on what you mean by delirious
Edited by glimpee (04/30/15 01:33 PM)
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glimpee
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Re: Allowing your eyes to assume, Over/Under stimulation of your eyes and control of the trip [Re: glimpee]
#21618056 - 04/30/15 03:42 PM (9 years, 20 days ago) |
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i have been unsuccessful recreating this while sober
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Gottaloveacid
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Re: Allowing your eyes to assume, Over/Under stimulation of your eyes and control of the trip [Re: glimpee]
#21618235 - 04/30/15 04:35 PM (9 years, 20 days ago) |
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Holy crap dude I did this on mescaline! I basically faced my head back so when I was looking forward, I was actually moving my eyes down on my head, and then I blinked my eyes really fast, like I fluttered them. I saw my entire room in a VERY vibrant, trippy version. It actually made some of the strongest visuals I have ever had!
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glimpee
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Re: Allowing your eyes to assume, Over/Under stimulation of your eyes and control of the trip [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21618323 - 04/30/15 05:03 PM (9 years, 20 days ago) |
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Gottaloveacid said: Holy crap dude I did this on mescaline! I basically faced my head back so when I was looking forward, I was actually moving my eyes down on my head, and then I blinked my eyes really fast, like I fluttered them. I saw my entire room in a VERY vibrant, trippy version. It actually made some of the strongest visuals I have ever had!
Yeah, fluttering and using your peripherals to see can make shit really trippy
The easiest thing to do it on is a TV
Something else I learned, tilt my head and look as far away from the thing as possible (tv in this case) so that I am using my furthers peripherals to see the TV, really pushing my eyes away. When watching TV while doing this or fluttering - you can start to see some really trippy shit
And I think that has to do with assumption. When you flutter - you are perceiving but you ALSO have your eyes closed, so they mix. When you use your peripherals, you don't get as much detail, so your eyes make up for it with other stuff. When you leave the bottoms of your eyes ever so slightly open, you blur everything and mix both methods
A lot of interesting things can be done to mess with perceptions
The coolest thing I did though was while my eyes were closed, move when in different directions until my eyelids pop open a tiny bit, but not enough to really see anything. In one room, I saw a pillow, and then 4 pillows, and then more and more piled up and appeared
In the same place, I saw a pile of antiques, every time I shifted my vision the objects changes. One at a time, mostly.
Such cool stuff. But how am I going to learn to recreate this while sober?
it's going to be really hard
-------------------- Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.
Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069
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