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First time dmt extract, do these pictures look right amount of quantity?
    #21615544 - 04/29/15 10:11 PM (9 years, 20 days ago)

Ok, so a friend Adam, he has been wanting to try dmt, and he has gotten ahold of some momasa hostilis root bark powder.  He thinks he can extract it using some online tutorials.  Any suggested read I can share with my friend on this matter?

Also he has no idea about moai's and would like to know if b. caapi is the best, SAFEST moai and how one would extract it.  He has no clue about moai's except they can be extremely dangrous dangerous.  Or can adam simply buy an already made moai legitimantly from a health store or something simular.

He wants to smoke it first and then try it orally the next day or two.  He has a lot of tripping with lsd and shroom experience.  Is it simular to them trips or more like salvia, cause he HATES!!!! salvia cause you can't control or know what he is doing and moves around without even knowing it.


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Re: First time dmt, moai help [Re: Deathdefier]
    #21615669 - 04/29/15 10:54 PM (9 years, 20 days ago)

Salvia effects a different part of the brain, Kappa opioid receptors, than DMT. DMT's effects are like an intense mushroom trip condensed into 15 minutes. You probably won't be able to move if you breakthrough on smoked DMT,
Most people say that smoked DMT and ayahuasca are pretty different in the effects.

Here is a food-safe DMT extraction tek. Oh and MAOIs are very safe, just you have to restrict your diet to get rid of certain foods that are high in tyramine. Anything fermented and meat especially. There are much better lists if you search it up, but syrian rue and Caapi vine both contain harmaline, which probably won't affect your digestion of tyramine, but it's better to be safe.

Doing an extraction or just drink a tea of either syrian rue or caapi vine is pretty safe and easy. Syrian rue has been known to possibly be less "gentler" than caapi and more chaotic. (I've noticed this with mushrooms, but never tried ayahuasca). Syrian rue is much cheaper though.

DMT is a very intense chemical that only shares one thing with Salvia, and that's intensity. The effects are otherwise very different. Good luck with your extraction and your trips. :grin:


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Re: First time dmt, moai help [Re: Achillita]
    #21616005 - 04/30/15 12:38 AM (9 years, 20 days ago)

For caapi does my friend want chopped, shredded, or powdered.  If anyone has a preferd vendor you can pm me.


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Re: First time dmt, moai help [Re: Achillita]
    #21616696 - 04/30/15 08:24 AM (9 years, 20 days ago)

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Here is a food-safe DMT extraction tek. Oh and MAOIs are very safe, just you have to restrict your diet to get rid of certain foods that are high in tyramine. Anything fermented and meat especially. There are much better lists if you search it up, but syrian rue and Caapi vine both contain harmaline, which probably won't affect your digestion of tyramine, but it's better to be safe.



Keep in mind that tek is only food safe if you use food-grade d-limonene as your solvent. Xylene and naptha are not food safe.

Also, IME diet doesn't matter so much. I get mad munchies from high doses of rue alkaloids and will often like eat a whole meat lovers pizza + six pack of beer (loads of tyramine) with no ill effects. What is very dangerous is using antihistamines, antidepressants, cough syrups, stimulants, and probably some other drugs in conjunction with an MAOI. That can kill you.

Chopped/shredded caapi is easiest to brew. Powdered is a pain.


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Re: First time dmt, moai help [Re: FriendlyFace]
    #21617215 - 04/30/15 11:28 AM (9 years, 20 days ago)

Ok cool, he will use the tek 2.  He works with naptha and xylenes all the time cause of the industry he works in. the 2nd tek evaporates the toxins off.  He wants to thank you all for your education on the matter. If he has anymore questions he will have me post his questions here.


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Re: First time dmt, moai help [Re: Deathdefier]
    #21621894 - 05/01/15 12:29 PM (9 years, 19 days ago)

He has ran into a few questions that need answering. Is  Extracted dmt crystals both the best way for smoking and oral use. or is another process used for oral?

For oral dose-  He got ahold of red b. Caapi.  Does he simply extract the dmt.  Then make tea with red b. Caapi, then drink the caapi tea, then eat the crystal dmt?  How do you eat a crystal? Or is he supposed to put the crystals in the caapi tea?  I can't find an answer.


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Re: First time dmt, moai help [Re: Deathdefier]
    #21633979 - 05/04/15 09:50 AM (9 years, 16 days ago)

Dump the crystalline DMT in your mouth.

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Re: First time dmt, moai help [Re: s240779]
    #21661483 - 05/10/15 02:30 PM (9 years, 10 days ago)

Very first attempt, i did 100g mhrb in pulled 5 times back to back, put in 3 different containers, this is 4 hours in the freezer.  Everything look right to yall? Yeild amount look appropriate?






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Re: First time dmt, moai help [Re: Deathdefier]
    #21661880 - 05/10/15 04:26 PM (9 years, 10 days ago)

Looks pretty good! Keep it in the freezer for at least 24 hours though. Preferably longer.


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Re: First time dmt, moai help [Re: acapuchinu]
    #21661985 - 05/10/15 04:55 PM (9 years, 10 days ago)

Ok I was planning on 20 hours total in the freezer cause the tek said 8-10hours then straining then do 5 more pulls, would you suggest i wait the full 24 hours still?
Also the tek says 5-10 minutes with the naptha, should I do longer pulls?


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Re: First time dmt, moai help [Re: Deathdefier]
    #21698136 - 05/19/15 11:52 AM (9 years, 1 day ago)

Well I did great on the extract, but I went to make tostitos today and after I finished my first one I realized it tasted like naptha..... Think I should be ok?


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Re: First time dmt, moai help [Re: Deathdefier]
    #21700372 - 05/19/15 10:24 PM (9 years, 20 hours ago)

Definitely go longer pulls than 5-10 minutes, swirl it around for a minute, let it separate completely and repeat like 5 times each pull.

Also yeah, usually in the freezer the longer the better. 24-48 hours should be good. Definitely more than 8-10.

Not sure what to tell you about the tostito lol.


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Re: First time dmt, moai help [Re: acapuchinu]
    #21700439 - 05/19/15 10:46 PM (9 years, 20 hours ago)

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Definitely go longer pulls than 5-10 minutes, swirl it around for a minute, let it separate completely and repeat like 5 times each pull.

Also yeah, usually in the freezer the longer the better. 24-48 hours should be good. Definitely more than 8-10.

Not sure what to tell you about the tostito lol.




This is what I would try. Longer pulls. Use hot naptha and freeze it for more than 24 hours.

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Re: First time dmt, moai help [Re: daytripper05]
    #21704558 - 05/20/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I got 1.4g out of it so I am pleased.  We waisted like .5g trying to learn how to smoke it and was such a terrible experience until we found out the proer method.  When smoked properly it should be smooth not like burning plastic.


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Re: First time dmt, moai help [Re: Deathdefier]
    #21704579 - 05/20/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: First time dmt, moai help [Re: Deathdefier]
    #21705513 - 05/21/15 08:03 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Nice job. That xtal looks great. :thumbup:

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