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is this dmt?
    #2158976 - 12/04/03 05:49 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

after using QT's extraction (with a few modifications) of mimosa hostilis, my friend now thinks he has dmt. (i wrote up his procedure, but some how i tried to go back and change it and it was lost.  :mad2:)

is this the real deal?





it kinda looks like the pictures of dmt on erowid. if this actually is dmt, any advice on preparing/using it/the trip would be greatly appreciated. thanks! 


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Re: is this dmt? [Re: sancho]
    #2158996 - 12/04/03 05:57 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

only one way to find out... looks like dirty base to me, not that bad if it's your first time extracting anything. Just throw some in a light bulb/test tube whatever your planing on using to smoke it and try it out, make sure it dosn't smell like whatever solvent you used first. dosage isn't that important, about 3 good hits and it will take you where you to be if it's decent product, take the biggest hits you can as fast as you can.


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Re: is this dmt? [Re: sancho]
    #2159094 - 12/04/03 06:36 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

It's what my friends first extraction looked like.. if not cleaner..
A little dab of that on some mint in a normal pipe = first breathtaking trip. Good luck, you have DMT there, bud.

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Re: is this dmt? [Re: sancho]
    #2159101 - 12/04/03 06:39 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Smoke it and tell us how it goes!


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Re: is this dmt? [Re: sancho]
    #2159209 - 12/04/03 07:10 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

it looks like you still have a lot of solvent in that dish. you have to evaporate it completely before you can even tell if you have dmt crystals.


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Re: is this dmt? [Re: sancho]
    #2159293 - 12/04/03 07:36 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

All those white crystals should be DMT. Scrape around the brown gunk.

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Re: is this dmt? [Re: OctopusDr]
    #2159357 - 12/04/03 07:54 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

I believe what your seeing is the carpet through the glass, the brown gunk is the spice,


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Re: is this dmt? [Re: John]
    #2159457 - 12/04/03 08:14 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

you see that ring around the dish? it looks like there is still a decent amount of solvent in it. if that whole dish is filled with white crystals then that is a hell of a lot of dmt.


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Re: is this dmt? [Re: Infrared]
    #2159475 - 12/04/03 08:20 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

that just looks like the dish to me and the way the pic was taken, if it is that's a fuckinlot of solvent, I mentioned to check smell before smoking it and that would reak if it was all solvent, no way are those white crystals, there wouldn't be white ones and dark gunk if they were, the color would be more evenly distrubuited ya know.


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Re: is this dmt? [Re: John]
    #2159500 - 12/04/03 08:24 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

when you click on that second pic it really looks like solvent. i dunno they arent the best pics so it is very hard to tell exactly what is going on. if it is dmt , you cant miss that smell.


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Re: is this dmt? [Re: Infrared]
    #2160021 - 12/04/03 11:50 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

yea that deffinitly looks wet still....smell it....but i can almost be positave that needs to dry a bit more you said you made some mods what changes were they?

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Re: is this dmt? [Re: Penroc3]
    #2160081 - 12/05/03 12:10 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

sancho:
does it smells like plastic?
looks too colorful to be pure...
but looks like a nice job anyways! specially if it works! =)


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Edited by felixhigh (12/05/03 12:16 AM)

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Re: is this dmt? [Re: felixhigh]
    #2160978 - 12/05/03 10:13 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

the entire dish thing does smell like plastic...

yeah, lol, i took the picture on the carpet, so the stuff in the background is just carpet.

when it finally dried, it turned into this brownish colored powder. in the picture, it was not completely dry yet. on the back of the can of naptha i bought it said specifically that it left no residue when it dried. thinking that it must not leave any residue, i didnt evaporate any beforehand.

everyone talks about this lightbulb method of smoking it. could someone please tell me how id go about making this pipe? thanks


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Re: is this dmt? [Re: sancho]
    #2161355 - 12/05/03 12:14 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

I just put some on top of a nug and smoked it out of my broken (but still smokable) glass pipe.

DMT is kind of a tricky substance to smoke. The crystals melt...ehh...its just hard to smoke out of a normal glass pipe.

Next method I will be using is the "foil and straw" method. I'm sure you can figure it out yourself without an explanation.


edit: ALSO - dosage is VERY important!!!! It would be very stupid under ANY circumstances of doing ANY drug not to check out a correct dose for yourself. Don't smoke a shitload of this stuff for the first time, unless you're prepared. Just try a SMALL amount first, and see how it makes you feel (this power of this stuff is amazing!). Move onto a higher dosage after that if you feel comfortable.



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Re: is this dmt? [Re: Psilozero]
    #2161383 - 12/05/03 12:24 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

meh, dosage isnt that important with dmt. you either smoke enough and have a flash, or you dont get enough and get weak effects. OD is out of the question with dmt, so just throw a big chunk in and keep on hitting it until you cant anymore. and a test tube works just as good as a lightbulb


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Re: is this dmt? [Re: Infrared]
    #2161463 - 12/05/03 12:38 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

yeah...
the dosage would be really important if we were talking about other tryptamines more potent (5MeO, bufo...), thats for sure.

sancho: with what plant did your friend start with? phalaris?
because for instance, assuming thats pure dmt, one would have to have had gone through tons of phalaris...


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Edited by felixhigh (12/05/03 12:40 PM)

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Re: is this dmt? [Re: felixhigh]
    #2161917 - 12/05/03 02:39 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

nah, it was mimosa hostilis. the starting material was somewhere around 50g.


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Re: is this dmt? [Re: sancho]
    #2162065 - 12/05/03 03:15 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, i don't know what's up with everybody else, but it looks to me that there is only the residue in the dish [give or take any amount naptha still in the solute residue itself].

just be sure to get it all evaporated off, you don't want to smell it.

assuming the modifications made to the extraction proceedure didn't compromise quality of materials, the rest of the impurities present are due to the extraction process and where from the plant material. they should not be of any concern, other than not being able to be sure of exact DMT content in your product.


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Re: is this dmt? [Re: canid]
    #2163744 - 12/06/03 08:32 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

it seemed dry to me too.

sancho: did your friend defat it or not? i don't think it's need for mimosa.
it looks like too much residue for too little bark, which suggests a low concentration product!
but you said it was still wet of solvent so it might reduce it's volume even more so and perhaps then be of good quality...
let us know!
and don't sniff it if it's not dry please! =)
it's supposed to smell like plastic after the solvent is gone...
actually it's an unmistakable plastic smell, you'll know.


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Re: is this dmt? [Re: sancho]
    #2163992 - 12/06/03 11:08 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

You fucked up your extraction bro. You should have had crystals settled on the bottom after the solvent evaporated. And you should have been putting only clear solvent into that dish.

You should have never let that brown gunk into the dish.

I would say, try again.

Use this Elf extraction

The crystals WILL look just like the ones pictured here.



Edited by OctopusDr (12/06/03 11:11 AM)

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