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Feds: 6 died as a result of overdosing from Silk Road-purchased drugs
    #21598870 - 04/26/15 11:56 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/04/25/feds-6-died-as-a-result-of-overdosing-from-silk-road-purchased-drugs/

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The head attorney for Silk Road founder and convicted felon Ross Ulbricht has asked the judge that his upcoming sentencing hearing be postponed, according to a Friday court filing.

Why does this lawyer, Joshua Dratel, want the date to be pushed back? Because, he argues, the defense needs adequate time to review the government’s latest revelation that six people died as a result of overdosing on drugs they purchased on Silk Road.

What's more, the government intends to present two of the parents of the deceased who will testify at the sentencing hearing, currently scheduled for May 15 in New York federal court. The alleged evidence of overdoses suggests the government is seeking perhaps the fullest possible sentence—life in prison—for Ulbricht.

As Ars reported at the end of the trial in February, Ulbricht was found guilty of seven charges including three drug counts: distributing or aiding and abetting the distribution of narcotics, distributing narcotics or aiding and abetting distribution over the Internet, and conspiracy to violate narcotics laws.

Dratel also called the relevant materials sent to the defense so far “woefully inadequate.” He also seems to be arguing that Silk Road, in fact, was actually interested in minimizing its buyers’ and seller’s risk. As he writes:

    In addition, the government’s introduction of this issue—the Silk Road web site’s alleged responsibility for certain deaths, whether or not from substances purchased from vendors on the Silk Road site—makes highly relevant a related issue: the extent to which the Silk Road web site reduced the dangers of substance abuse, and consciously and deliberately incorporated “harm reduction” strategies to implement that objective.

Ulbricht’s lawyer, who also reiterated in the same filing that his client was not guilty, did not immediately respond to Ars’ request for comment early Saturday morning.




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Re: Feds: 6 died as a result of overdosing from Silk Road-purchased drugs [Re: xpl0de]
    #21599252 - 04/26/15 01:37 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Those parents are probably trying to find a way to get some cash for their child's death.

How do they know it wasn't an intentional OD?

Those people very clearly and intentionally researched how to buy bitcoins, use tor, ect. I don't feel like any blame should come on the sellers or admins.

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Re: Feds: 6 died as a result of overdosing from Silk Road-purchased drugs [Re: grower182] * 1
    #21599487 - 04/26/15 02:39 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

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grower182 said:
Those parents are probably trying to find a way to get some cash for their child's death.

How do they know it wasn't an intentional OD?

Those people very clearly and intentionally researched how to buy bitcoins, use tor, ect. I don't feel like any blame should come on the sellers or admins.



Agreed. I see the instrumental value for the government in charging drug dealers with murder if their products lead to death, but it is a really unjust charge. Why don't we charge alcohol companies with murder for those overdoses?

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Re: Feds: 6 died as a result of overdosing from Silk Road-purchased drugs [Re: HardTrippin]
    #21599730 - 04/26/15 03:26 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

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HardTrippin said:Why don't we charge alcohol companies with murder for those overdoses?



:thumbup: It's so flipping simple. See, that's we it's so hard to see the forest...because those gosh darn trees are in the way!


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Re: Feds: 6 died as a result of overdosing from Silk Road-purchased drugs [Re: dwnlw2slw]
    #21599776 - 04/26/15 03:36 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Almost six million people die from tobacco use and 2.5 million from harmful use of alcohol each year worldwide, the World Health Organization (WHO) reports.


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Re: Feds: 6 died as a result of overdosing from Silk Road-purchased drugs [Re: lokendoch]
    #21600095 - 04/26/15 04:45 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

As far as that issue is concerned, this is the most applicable image I found:


...or it should be dead. But it's really not, so we just have to keep beating the shit out of this ultra-hard-headed, fastest healing, regenerating, most stubborn wolverine-from-xmen, T-1000-from-Terminator-2 horse of all horses that are barely still alive! Actually, it must be a zombie horse. That's right, some kind of tobacco-and-alcohol-is/is-not-just-as-harmful-as-illegal-drugs lobbyist, undead, zombie, vampire horse.


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Re: Feds: 6 died as a result of overdosing from Silk Road-purchased drugs [Re: HardTrippin]
    #21600335 - 04/26/15 05:38 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

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HardTrippin said:
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grower182 said:
Those parents are probably trying to find a way to get some cash for their child's death.

How do they know it wasn't an intentional OD?

Those people very clearly and intentionally researched how to buy bitcoins, use tor, ect. I don't feel like any blame should come on the sellers or admins.



Agreed. I see the instrumental value for the government in charging drug dealers with murder if their products lead to death, but it is a really unjust charge. Why don't we charge alcohol companies with murder for those overdoses?




Or gun retailers for the deaths that their products cause.

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Re: Feds: 6 died as a result of overdosing from Silk Road-purchased drugs [Re: Me_Roy]
    #21600500 - 04/26/15 06:14 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Stupid stupid stupid... Okay so they od'd? Would have happened either way. Silk road was a wonderful place for people to stay out of the bad neighborhoods and areas and still get their fix.


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Re: Feds: 6 died as a result of overdosing from Silk Road-purchased drugs [Re: LestWeForget]
    #21601003 - 04/26/15 07:50 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

They didn't even mention what drug it was.


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Re: Feds: 6 died as a result of overdosing from Silk Road-purchased drugs [Re: lowbrow]
    #21601077 - 04/26/15 08:01 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

I think it is also funny that in the pic that accompanies the article there is a few $20 dollar bills, and a couple urinary tract infection pills...lol.  I never bought from Sr...but I doubt these pills were topping the sales list!


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Re: Feds: 6 died as a result of overdosing from Silk Road-purchased drugs [Re: Ganjaburger]
    #21601350 - 04/26/15 08:57 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

6 deaths.... i think thats a testiment to the benifits of a quasi-regulated market. If you took a sample of the same amount of people who buy drugs on the street 6 deaths is allot smaller.

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Re: Feds: 6 died as a result of overdosing from Silk Road-purchased drugs [Re: Ilift]
    #21605590 - 04/27/15 07:18 PM (9 years, 23 days ago)

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Ilift said:
6 deaths.... i think thats a testiment to the benifits of a quasi-regulated market. If you took a sample of the same amount of people who buy drugs on the street 6 deaths is allot smaller.



:thumbup: That's probably true.


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