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Invisibleslowgrowloph
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Grafted Loph problems
    #21590335 - 04/24/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I got this loph about a year ago now already grafted onto a pereskiopsis stalk. When I got it it was very small and is now about the size of a quarter. The pereskiopsis never had any leaves on it which concerned me but it seems to grow just fine for quite a while. Within the last month though the pere stalk started to bend and the loph is starting to shrivel up. Whats going on? Its even throwing out roots from the bottom of the loph. It almost seems like the pereskiopsis has died and the loph isnt receiving water or nutrients. If I cant get this figured out I am just going to degraft it and plant it since its already throwing roots out. Any advice?




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Re: Grafted Loph problems [Re: slowgrowloph]
    #21590423 - 04/24/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

What you doing working with grafted lophs?


I thought you were slowgrowloph:justdontknow:


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Re: Grafted Loph problems [Re: spaceman101]
    #21590526 - 04/24/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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What you doing working with grafted lophs?


I thought you were slowgrowloph:justdontknow:





:lol:

Anyways, I'd go ahead and degraft it.
Wait a little while for it to callous and put into a medium.

The part i'm uncertain about is whether or not to cut below the root, where some pereskiopsis might still be attached. Would it rot?

Or to cut above the root, and wait for new ones...leaving no pereskiopsis. :shrug:


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Re: Grafted Loph problems [Re: slowgrowloph]
    #21590757 - 04/24/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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slowgrowloph said:
I got this loph about a year ago now already grafted onto a pereskiopsis stalk. When I got it it was very small and is now about the size of a quarter. The pereskiopsis never had any leaves on it which concerned me but it seems to grow just fine for quite a while. Within the last month though the pere stalk started to bend and the loph is starting to shrivel up. Whats going on? Its even throwing out roots from the bottom of the loph. It almost seems like the pereskiopsis has died and the loph isnt receiving water or nutrients. If I cant get this figured out I am just going to degraft it and plant it since its already throwing roots out. Any advice?








Looks like it needs water. Pereskiopsis is very thirsty. And when something is grafted to it it needs even more water.


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Re: Grafted Loph problems [Re: spaceman101]
    #21590845 - 04/24/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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spaceman101 said:
What you doing working with grafted lophs?


I thought you were slowgrowloph:justdontknow:


Anyways it's good to see ya back:super:




:lol: Yeah well I decided to speed up the process with some of them lol

@ferrel_human: From the pic it looks real dry but I keep it watered and soaked down and have even been watering it more frequently since it started to look wilted.

@1234g0: I was trying to decided the same thing, degraft and leave some pere stalk to plant or just completely degraft and let it callous over...


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Re: Grafted Loph problems [Re: slowgrowloph]
    #21591361 - 04/24/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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@ferrel_human: From the pic it looks real dry but I keep it watered and soaked down and have even been watering it more frequently since it started to look wilted.






Well then I have no idea what it is but like someone said before regrafting it to a column.


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Re: Grafted Loph problems [Re: slowgrowloph]
    #21591530 - 04/24/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

It's quite possible that the roots have rotted from too much water and are not taking up any more water. Best option would be to regraft.


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Re: Grafted Loph problems [Re: prismism]
    #21593088 - 04/24/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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prismism said:
It's quite possible that the roots have rotted from too much water and are not taking up any more water. Best option would be to regraft.




Regraft to a san pedro or other larger cacti? Ive had good luck with grafting to san pedro, but im concerned about it already being kind of shriveled up. Do you guys think it would graft fine as is? I know it doesnt have any rot, it is just deprived of water and nutrients. Would regrafting onto a pedro or other trich be my best option right now for this guy? I just dont want to lose it :justdontknow:


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“One of life's quiet excitements is to stand somewhat apart from yourself and watch yourself softly becoming the author of something beautiful even if it is only a floating ash.”  -Norman Maclean:sunny:


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Re: Grafted Loph problems [Re: slowgrowloph] * 1
    #21593154 - 04/24/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Your yote is already shooting out roots, degraft that bad boy and root it on its own :greenthumb:


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Re: Grafted Loph problems [Re: Rafiikii]
    #21593189 - 04/24/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Your yote is already shooting out roots, degraft that bad boy and root it on its own :greenthumb:




Yeah thats what im leaning to right now. I was just hoping there was a way to save it without having to degraft if. Btw, ive still got some pere for you if you want em. Just lemme know Rafiikii :cheers:


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“One of life's quiet excitements is to stand somewhat apart from yourself and watch yourself softly becoming the author of something beautiful even if it is only a floating ash.”  -Norman Maclean:sunny:


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Re: Grafted Loph problems [Re: slowgrowloph]
    #21593736 - 04/25/15 05:03 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Pereskiopsis grafts are very easy to graft to columnars in that sense.. Easier also cut without cut whole vascular ring off from scion. What's common with own root plants about scion is been cut too high above. Those water balloon shape pereskiopsis are very easy to cut. Small buttons 3-4cm root fast back to soil as well.


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Re: Grafted Loph problems [Re: intelligentlife]
    #21599449 - 04/26/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Well I decided to just go ahead and degraft it. I left about a half inch of pekeskiopsis below the soil line. Is that a good idea or should I just go ahead and get rid of the entire pere stalk thats left? Here it is in its new home


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:sunny:“Maybe it meant something. Maybe not, in the long run, but no explanation, no mix of words or music or memories can touch that sense of knowing that you were there and alive in that corner of time and the world. Whatever it meant.” -Hunter S. Thompson

“One of life's quiet excitements is to stand somewhat apart from yourself and watch yourself softly becoming the author of something beautiful even if it is only a floating ash.”  -Norman Maclean:sunny:


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Re: Grafted Loph problems [Re: slowgrowloph]
    #21599594 - 04/26/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I would have dug that pereskiopsis stalk out,I predict future problems with that man.
My alberto was grafted to a pereskiopsis,and when I degrafted it,I just twisted the stalk out.
I'd see if I could do the same with that last bit if I were you.


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