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PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms
    #21597159 - 04/25/15 10:31 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

best to read the whole ensuing argument, not just my OP.  it's the majority consensus that I'm actually wrong on this one, however I leave this post up for you to discern:

so I once grew some mutant P cubensis Penis Envy "mushrooms" (see: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19389047  and please look at my photos of the mutants on the SECOND page as well)

I'm not entirely sure what caused the mutation(s), likely cobweb mold and lack of skill on my part.  I made the mistake of clinging to the products of my actions though they were super fishy.  and I paid a price. 

twice I ate these weird mutant fuckers and twice I went to the schizo-zone...I hope you don't know what that is.  I've tripped dozens of times and on a lot more than plain ol' mushrooms.  NEVER have I had such a bad time as those two trips.  that was some real darkness, intense fear and unbearable paranoia.  being "taught" by what you thought when you ate them was your revered teacher how to, for example, kill and take no blame, is ultra-confusing bullshit.  intensely fearing loss of control for the sake and physical safety of your roommate and the people in your building when you're tripping on something you realize mid-trip is molecularly unsound is...really not fun.  meeting the invisible chief demon of Earth in this hyper-paranoid state won't help you transcend your own demonic tendencies.  one of those trips was the only time I've ever kicked close friends out of my apt.  and the effects lasted 5+ hrs.

I strongly caution everyone on this point.  do not be tempted by these freaks of nature, even if it is one of your first "successful" harvests, like it was mine.  I'm fine now but it took some work.  journey well, friends!


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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: Rahas]
    #21597172 - 04/25/15 10:37 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

From what I understand ksss and PE are mutant strains... I'm not buying it mane sorry!!
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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: 2shoes]
    #21597184 - 04/25/15 10:45 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Maybe your underlying thoughts of it having mold or them being mutant freaks caused you to freak?


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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: 2shoes]
    #21597186 - 04/25/15 10:46 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

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From what I understand ksss and PE are mutant strains... I'm not buying it mane sorry!!
:goodluckwiththat2:



well, if it adds to my argument I have grown some PE that turned out fine and provided great trips.

also: several friends of mine ate those freaks and all but one had quite bad trips.  even at separate times when I wasn't around having those two particular bad trips.

I tried my yogic meditation (it's my life-raft in those situations) on one of those terrible trips and I was able to tell that something was literally wrong...like neurologically.  I've been meditating 4-5x a week for 7yr now, and have done so on other bad trips.  this was very different.  my body was very much not communicating with its cells correctly...never mind, if you don't believe me, you don't believe me. 

I still wouldn't even dare you to eat mutant cubes that looked as bad as mine.  I wouldn't wish those two trips on my worst enemies, frankly.


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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: Rahas]
    #21597209 - 04/25/15 10:55 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

If they look seriously questionable id toss them out done deal no questions asked or bad feelings. It's not worth it at all!! Considering the volume and speed they grow at.

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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: 2shoes]
    #21597246 - 04/25/15 11:07 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Bad trips happen.  I've convinced myself several times I've poisoned myself while having a bad trip. I almost threw all my shit out one night because I knew I was dying and I didnt want my mushroom grow on the news after they came to get my body lol. You just have to take that shit and try your best to stay calm a wait it out. Couple hours later I'm fine.


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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: T-Funkadelic]
    #21597275 - 04/25/15 11:16 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

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Bad trips happen.  I've convinced myself several times I've poisoned myself while having a bad trip. I almost threw all my shit out one night because I knew I was dying and I didnt want my mushroom grow on the news after they came to get my body lol. You just have to take that shit and try your best to stay calm a wait it out. Couple hours later I'm fine.




yep.  I've had bad trips, the two I wrote about were different.

I like to do a shaman-style abstinence fast from all my vices for 3+ days before I trip.  3+ points creates a shape/enclosure, in this case one made of my own willpower for protection.


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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: Rahas]
    #21597348 - 04/25/15 11:36 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Dude psilocybin is psilocybin and mushoom mutations effect nothing besides their asetheics , do you have a prejudice against ugly things ?

I've ate partially molded mushrooms and was provided a clean visual trip , the mushrooms you eat are a crap shoot and can't be judged based on looks , unless they're super tiny,

You get more psilocybin per gram when you eat smaller mushroom because its spread out amongst many shrooms .

I don't like heavy shrooms weighing over an 8th


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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: JayZ Morgan]
    #21597397 - 04/25/15 11:53 PM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Cubes are cubes. They all have the same active ingredients. Potency varies on genetics and environmental conditions. Bad trips come from an unstable mind. Not what cubes were eaten.

Information like this should be pulled from this forum unless a constructive discussion is created. In this case youre forcing your opinion to be heard and your opinion is misinformation.


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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: djmako7]
    #21597451 - 04/26/15 12:13 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Yea it sounds like you just had a dificult trip.. the mind goes to all sorts of conclusions


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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: mushpunx]
    #21597497 - 04/26/15 12:30 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Mutants from genetics is far different than eating contaminated fruit bodies.

Eat all your CLEAN mutants. Toss all contaminated material

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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: Dune-grass]
    #21597733 - 04/26/15 02:06 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

It is all in your head :trippinballs:


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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: djmako7]
    #21598223 - 04/26/15 07:58 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

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Cubes are cubes. They all have the same active ingredients. Potency varies on genetics and environmental conditions. Bad trips come from an unstable mind. Not what cubes were eaten.

Information like this should be pulled from this forum unless a constructive discussion is created. In this case youre forcing your opinion to be heard and your opinion is misinformation.




I hear your argument and it is likely valid if the majority on here are saying the same thing.  I could be wrong. 

HOWEVER, did any of you even look at my old post and look at that fucking mutant fungal coral reef from which I picked and ate?  please go to the second page which features the photos of the more mature mutants.  if you did so already, your argument is valid.  if not, well then I think I may be experiencing the effects of the rhetorical fallacies of the appeal to popular belief, not to mention the appeal to wishful thinking from many of you.

you don't entertain the idea that mutants that mutated also contain severely mutated psilocybin, which would likely produce aberrant effects?


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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: Rahas]
    #21598228 - 04/26/15 08:03 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Those are just PE blobs, thats pretty normal for a first flush. They're the same as eating a beautiful mushroom. I've ate some a few weeks ago.


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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: Dune-grass]
    #21598231 - 04/26/15 08:05 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

I believe the real issue lies right here, I just didn't express it as well:

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Mutants from genetics is far different than eating contaminated fruit bodies.

Eat all your CLEAN mutants. Toss all contaminated material




so, my question to all of you is whether those mutants were merely mutant genetics or the result of contamination mutations.  I think this is important to discern before this post is deleted, if at all.


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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: Rahas]
    #21598243 - 04/26/15 08:10 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Don't delete this post! PE are a mutant race of cube that produces blobs like you ate a lot of the time on the first flush.


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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: T-Funkadelic]
    #21598250 - 04/26/15 08:15 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Sorry but :ilold:

Just a bad trip Bro. It happens

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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: T-Funkadelic]
    #21598252 - 04/26/15 08:17 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

I've looked at the pics of you're mutant tub. Thats normal, and I see zero contamination.


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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: T-Funkadelic]
    #21598312 - 04/26/15 08:40 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

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Those are just PE blobs, thats pretty normal for a first flush. Their the same as eating a beautiful mushroom. I've ate some a few weeks ago.





I didnt notice thats what he was growing! Yea, I agree just pE blobs. Pe is wicked stronh on average so I think he just had a hard trip.

They would be crazy strong if thry werent blobs too. You can try casing PE it helps prevent first flush blobs.

MS grown mushrooms potency can vary from flush to flush, or even fruit to fruit.. just because some mushrooms in a batch are mild the next one out of the bag might be muy picante


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Re: PSA: do NOT eat mutant mushrooms [Re: mushpunx]
    #21598584 - 04/26/15 10:35 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

sounds to me like they were either bacteria ridden or had some kind of very unfavorable mold which was very toxic to ur system .that coupled with the hallucinagenic effects was all the makings for a very bad experience and if this is the case ur lucky there were no permanent psychological damage . ive read cases of people eating some non actives which contained a bacteria that cuaes brain damage and death . fungus fungus` or mushrooms molds are nuthing to fuck with some are extremely dangerous. but the fact they were mutants had zero to do with ur reaction

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