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glimpee
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Re: My First Hallucination (sober) [Re: zzripz]
#21595298 - 04/25/15 02:03 PM (9 years, 25 days ago) |
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zzripz said: I am reading a book at the moment called From a Broken Web, and the author goes really REALLY deep into things. She is exploring how the patriarchy has caused us to disconnect from our deeper selves, others, other species, and the whole natural world.
She says that in Goddess mythology the spider was seen as very sacred and used as a metaphor for how interconnectivity is woven, ad there is the myth of Spider Woman

So my point is that having vision of spiders is very powerful in a mythical sense
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' "Teleportation" experiments of the 1990s — where one electron has been "teleported" to another position — have also been cited as "experimental proof" of nonlocality. And in 2004, two independent teams of physicists — one at the National Institute of Standards in Colorado, the other at University of Innsbruck, Austria — announced that they had "teleported" the quantum state of entire atoms. While nonlocality still has its skeptics who state that "sufficient experimental proof" has not been offered, today the concept of nonlocality is assumed to be valid in quantum physics.
This realization was the deathblow for Newtonian physics as a model for the whole universe, since matter could no longer be considered to be individual and separate. Actions did not have to have an observable cause over an observable state. Nothing (at the quantum level) can be considered independent of anything else; all can only be understood in terms of their relationships to each other. The quantum model proposes that the universe exists as an interconnected web of relationships, forever indivisible, since nothing has any meaning by itself!'
Whats even more intersting is that spiders just came back into my life
When I was younger I had a fear, I turned that fear into hate - at least I wasn't scared and I could kill spiders. I realized that winter is ending - and spiders will be back. I resolved to live with spiders. to let them crawl/bite me if need be. After then, I killed two spiders out of instinct
I then had these hallucinations
And later I saw a spider near my shit and I let him go
-------------------- Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.
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Re: My First Hallucination (sober) [Re: glimpee]
#21602336 - 04/27/15 02:08 AM (9 years, 23 days ago) |
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If you are inducing hallucination to expand yourself into eventual godhood. Then why do you need answers from an internet forum as to what your hallucinations mean??
By default, shouldn't you know?? Aren't they somehow the answers you seek??
Only you really know the true answers to what the spiders mean, if you think hard enough.
-------------------- z -> z*z + c = GOD “Your denial is beneath you, and thanks to the use of hallucinogenic drugs, I see through you.” MUSHROOMS ARE IN SYMBIOTIC EVOLUTION WITH HUMANS. JUST LIKE ORCHIDS MIMIC THE BEES THAT POLLINATE THEM, MUSHROOMS MIMIC VARIOUS HUMAN ANATOMY. THEY ARE OUR EVOLUTIONARY BIRTHRIGHT!!
  
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glimpee
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Re: My First Hallucination (sober) [Re: Holoverse]
#21603789 - 04/27/15 12:25 PM (9 years, 23 days ago) |
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Holoverse said: If you are inducing hallucination to expand yourself into eventual godhood. Then why do you need answers from an internet forum as to what your hallucinations mean??
By default, shouldn't you know?? Aren't they somehow the answers you seek??
Only you really know the true answers to what the spiders mean, if you think hard enough.
Actually - I acknowledge godhood as a possibility - like the Buddha, but I doubt I will reach it. I am on this site asking how to slow control this process, since this experience made me think I've either lost or need to gain more control
-------------------- Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.
Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069
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Re: My First Hallucination (sober) [Re: glimpee]
#21605372 - 04/27/15 06:33 PM (9 years, 23 days ago) |
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not to be rude but dont you think hallucinating sober is more likely to be from flashbacks or some mental "disorder"?
Do you think its a god gift?
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GreenRabbit
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Re: My First Hallucination (sober) [Re: BoomRking]
#21608319 - 04/28/15 09:30 AM (9 years, 22 days ago) |
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I wouldn't call it either of those things but it definitely started with a lot of psychedelics... It's not a flashback if it never goes away.
I don't see black and white anymore.
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glimpee
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Re: My First Hallucination (sober) [Re: BoomRking]
#21609391 - 04/28/15 02:29 PM (9 years, 22 days ago) |
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BoomRking said: not to be rude but dont you think hallucinating sober is more likely to be from flashbacks or some mental "disorder"?
Do you think its a god gift?
Mental disorder - something people often jump to. Is it a disorder if it is sought? If it is purposely induced in a controlled way?
Perhaps these are flashbacks - but regardless, that helps in the process, at least in helping me know what's real and what isn't. Also, if I can self-induce flashbacks, does it become something more?
No, I don't think it's a "god gift." I think control over ones perceptions is a mostly forgotten (if even done) practice, its a practice of self-control and understanding on a mental and chemical level.
Right now, what I have are more like flashbacks. Small, self-induced changes in perception by using reference to how I felt while I was tripping. This is stage one. Being able to achieve a "false" enlightened state in reference to LSD/Shrooms. The next step (this is broad btw) is to make a NEW trip - a sober trip. I don't know what this is or like, but I kinda know how it feels. Also, unlike hallucinogens, I haven't been able to alter color to be more vibrant, I have just been able to slightly get patterns to move
But my point is flashbacks are part of the process. They're the initial bridge between tripping and sober. By utilizing these "flashbacks" I am making my chemistry and perceptions more in my control, and these "flashbacks" are slowly allowing me to break the barrier between ALL self/sociatal-induced walls.
-------------------- Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.
Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069
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glimpee
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Re: My First Hallucination (sober) [Re: GreenRabbit]
#21609407 - 04/28/15 02:33 PM (9 years, 22 days ago) |
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GreenRabbit said: I wouldn't call it either of those things but it definitely started with a lot of psychedelics... It's not a flashback if it never goes away.
I don't see black and white anymore.
I 100% agree, this completely started with psychadelics
Psychedelics opened my eyes past "rational logic" and into open mindedness - it allowed me to believe that this stuff MIGHT be possible
Furthermore - I am using psychedelics as a sort of shortcut (although I don't know if that's going to be bad or not) to a spiritual awakening. I use the altered state of tripping as a reference point for when I try to master myself and my perceptions while sober.
It would just take a LOT longer to understand/know how to do any of this stuff without use of LSD or a teacher. I do not have access to any teachers who are interested in my strain of spirituality, so I do what I can on my own. I also fear that I will never reach my greater goals - even with the use of psychedelics
But at this point, I'm trying anything and believing in it until I prove myself 100% wrong. Or unil someone REALLY puts me in my place.
-------------------- Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.
Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069
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glimpee
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Re: My First Hallucination (sober) [Re: glimpee]
#21642164 - 05/05/15 11:08 PM (9 years, 15 days ago) |
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i just realized, I smoked DMT in my dream, and then hallucinated while I was awake
literally I did the process backwards
Theres a lot of meaning that can be pulled from that - including the possibility to do drugs in your dreamstate and have it affect your real conscience
-------------------- Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.
Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069
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Re: My First Hallucination (sober) [Re: zzripz]
#21779417 - 06/08/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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the spider represents the Great Goddess in Greek myths, she existed containing all the cosmos, life cycles, etc. before Zues and the Olympians took over
Something I studied a bit this semester
Yeah I think there is some mystical meaning like that - but I also have to play with the idea that I was simply reacting to my fears (or a change in my perception of those fears)
thanks!
-------------------- Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.
Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069
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