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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: stareatclouds]
    #21591538 - 04/24/15 05:15 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Stare, in order to reduce the amount of space between each cake, flip half of them upside down so the fat part is on the bottom of half of them, you know what I mean, then they will fit in tight.

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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: invitro]
    #21592028 - 04/24/15 07:05 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Stare, anything hardwood; oak, beech, alder are the most popular. I am currently using a mix I created that contains 40lbs of the cheap feul pellets mixed with 20lbs of oak pellets and 20lbs of alder pellets. My shiitake are eating it right up. These are 6 days old.



I also have 8 reishi bottles colonizing with another 16 being PC'd as I type. After 3 days, the first 8 reishi bottles are starting to recover.

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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: insanemike]
    #21592142 - 04/24/15 07:34 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Do you use the Traeger wood pellets?


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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: insanemike]
    #21592145 - 04/24/15 07:35 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Sweet. I'll probably grab the sawdust for sure and ask what size the wood chips are. I'd assume ideal is pretty dang small.

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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: Grey]
    #21592195 - 04/24/15 07:48 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

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Do you use the Traeger wood pellets?




I can't remember what they were called, so maybe. I purchased the 20lbs bags from a local hardware store, they were meant for smoking. I was waiting to come across real hardwood sawdust pellets and when I did, I snatched them up. They were sorta pricey but I had a cheap 40lb bag of fuel pellets lying around and said what the hell, lets stretch it.

I had those shittake dowels in the fridge so long that they completely devoured the dowels. Here I thought the shape of the dowel was poking out in various spots but when I opened the bag to inoculate with, I found they were actually primordia growing. So I made 3 muda bottles and made 6 pasty plates. The plates are looking good so far, nice thick growth.

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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: insanemike]
    #21592247 - 04/24/15 07:58 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Sweet man. I have shiitake 75 dowels in the fridge that were starting to form that bark.

I bought Traeger "virgin" Oak pellets from ace for $20. I couldn't find the hardwood fuel kind. Just curious if you'd tried them. Probably gonna try some reishi in pint pp5 bottles.


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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: Grey]
    #21592287 - 04/24/15 08:07 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Yeah. I believe those are the oak pellets I purchased, same hardware store where you got yours. They had alder pellets also. I got mine on sale for $16 per 20lb bag. The 40lb bag of fuel pellets were from tractor supply for $4.

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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: insanemike]
    #21592608 - 04/24/15 09:30 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

When doing those shiitake bottles how long do you let them consolidate? And are you going to fruit in a monotub?


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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21592735 - 04/24/15 09:40 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

I was planning on consolidating them for a month or two in a refrigerator before putting them into my green house.

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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: insanemike]
    #21592851 - 04/24/15 10:02 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

I'm assuming that negates the need for a cold shock?


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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21592887 - 04/24/15 10:10 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

:lol: it's a long cold shock.

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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: insanemike]
    #21593083 - 04/24/15 11:05 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

:super: Have you grown shiitake this way before?


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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21593791 - 04/25/15 06:05 AM (9 years, 25 days ago)

Nah. I've never grown them before. What I was thinking was that I cannot keep temps low enough to fruit them so why not leave them in the fridge until they begin to fruit. I left the colonized dowels that these bottles were inoculated with in the refrigerator for 6 months and they began to develop mushrooms. If anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears.

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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: insanemike]
    #21593865 - 04/25/15 06:56 AM (9 years, 25 days ago)

Are you aware of the source of your genetics?  Not all species of Shiitake are exclusive to fruiting in 50F weather.  Some varieties of Shiitake will fruit in the 65-70F temp range. 

The reason your dowels developed mushrooms in the fridge after being in there for 6 months was NOT due to the climate, but rather over-incubation of the substrate.


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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: hamloaf]
    #21593991 - 04/25/15 07:50 AM (9 years, 25 days ago)

Thanks for the info, hamloaf. They're a cool weather strain. I purchased the plugs to noc up some logs outside but didn't need all of them so I left them in the refrigerator. I left them in the refrigerator because I didn't know if I could grow them in doors because of the fruiting temps. I needed the space inside my cooler recently so I figured lets give it a shot.

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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: insanemike]
    #21598338 - 04/26/15 08:52 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)



These are reishi bottles that I noc'd up with whole brown rice slurry 5 days ago. Yesterday these bottles were nowhere near this colonized. As in, a few spots here and there were white. Muda, what has been your average colonization time for reishi in these containers?

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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: insanemike]
    #21598568 - 04/26/15 10:28 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

MudaFuka won the ban lotto for this week, so he won't be back to answer any questions until next Sunday.


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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: hamloaf]
    #21598657 - 04/26/15 10:55 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

:flyhigh:

Edited by shroominmyroom (12/11/17 01:51 AM)

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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: shroominmyroom]
    #21598866 - 04/26/15 11:55 AM (9 years, 24 days ago)

Oh damn, I was in it. I wondered who won.


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Re: Updated Bottle Tek [Re: insanemike]
    #21628636 - 05/03/15 02:05 AM (9 years, 18 days ago)

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These are reishi bottles that I noc'd up with whole brown rice slurry 5 days ago. Yesterday these bottles were nowhere near this colonized. As in, a few spots here and there were white. Muda, what has been your average colonization time for reishi in these containers?



I've never done reishi in PP5s. I just harvested a few qt bottles of reishi but I didn't weigh my harvest.


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