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Invisiblejanedownthelane
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Seeing through people used to be fun, now seems like a curse
    #21589977 - 04/24/15 10:24 AM (9 years, 26 days ago)

In the past it was always trivial. 
It didn't happen all the time, but sometimes I would predict the very near future. I'd just call out what I know is going to happen, and then it would happen. It did not feel controlled, I didn't choose to do this, it just happened.  Again it was usually trivial.

Fast forward to today.
I can see the joy and suffering others have experienced, and I can see their future as well.  But still it doesn't happen all the time, I don't choose to do, it just happens.  The difference is it's becoming meaningful and it feels like a curse.  I can't change what I see.  I can't provide advice to help, I can't change the future that I see.

I can see through people, I can see the truth.

I feel burdened because no one else is me, so no one can understand that I "know" when I know something, and then I feel discredited and alone in what I'm seeing/experiencing.  So I try to exercise this gift/ability/burden and call things out as I see them.  It usually leads to discomfort when I do this, obviously I appear silly, but in the end what I saw IS the truth.

So if I can see things like this sometimes, why those time?
Why me?  Am I supposed to do something with this?
It seems anytime I try to use the information I get, it leads to suffering.  If I see suffering, I can't help.  If I do, it backfires.
Like a rule.

They say the eye only sees what the mind is prepared to know.  I see things that I feel I'm not prepared to know.  A lot of what I see now is very heavy.  This is why I feel burdened.

I wish I could control this.
Anyone else have these experiences?  Or know what to do with them?

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Re: Seeing through people used to be fun, now seems like a curse [Re: janedownthelane]
    #21589998 - 04/24/15 10:34 AM (9 years, 26 days ago)

can u give an example of u seeing thru to someone and how you responded causes discomfort?

i don't doubt you have this ability however helping anyone requires tact and good will otherwise it can have negative consequences as you are likely touching on something they are sensitive about

do you think others might have this insight sometimes also?...


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Re: Seeing through people used to be fun, now seems like a curse [Re: janedownthelane]
    #21590006 - 04/24/15 10:35 AM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Only Jesus, super heros or magicians can do this. Pick one and go with it.

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Re: Seeing through people used to be fun, now seems like a curse [Re: Revok]
    #21590053 - 04/24/15 10:49 AM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Friend was living with his girlfriend for 8 years in the same place and they were going to move soon.  I "saw" that after they moved, she got physically sick, he got mentally sick. I couldn't see any further though so I don't know the end result.  Anyways, he ended up telling me he was hesitant to move, in case something goes wrong between them he didn't want to be buying a house, it's a big commitment.
He wanted my advice for some reason, on if he should move, or stay.

I was faced with the choice to tell him or not.
This time I didn't tell him any of that but told him to trust his instincts.  He told me he doesn't have good instincts and we left that conversation at that.

Now they've moved, and she has developed an allergy to dogs.  Right now they're fighting about whether or not to get rid of the dog.
This may not be relevant, but it sticks out to me as something really recent.


Less recently, I met a beautiful woman at work, and I saw that she was molested as a child by her father.
Where this vision came from was beyond me, but it stuck in my mind and I thought about it every time I saw her.
5 years later she married a coworker of mine and had a child.
Their child was molested, and it was a big ordeal and everyone found out.  So this did not happen to her, but if happened to her future daughter.  They're no longer together and he is in jail for b&e but I feel in my gut it was him that did it.  And I can't say anything.  How can I.  None of this is my business at all.  I didn't ask to know any of this.

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Re: Seeing through people used to be fun, now seems like a curse [Re: janedownthelane]
    #21590062 - 04/24/15 10:51 AM (9 years, 26 days ago)

I know none of that proves anything, but I'm still getting these thoughts which I believe to be truth and I don't know what to do with them.
It used to be fun, like calling out what song comes on next on the radio.
Now it's serious.  I can't express the heaviness of it.

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Re: Seeing through people used to be fun, now seems like a curse [Re: janedownthelane]
    #21590070 - 04/24/15 10:56 AM (9 years, 26 days ago)

I'm serious too. You should drop whatever it is your doing and just hit the road. Doing good, starting religions and entertaining people. Have you ever considered the possibility that you're the One?

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Re: Seeing through people used to be fun, now seems like a curse [Re: janedownthelane]
    #21590107 - 04/24/15 11:07 AM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Thoughts that you think are true -- like, about the future? 

No reason to be alarmed - prediction is a normal part of life. . I've had glimpses my whole life, sometimes even seeing 11 or 12 years into the future, once anyway.

It's possible to see things that are yet to pass, but one thing is. . I've been considering to post for a few weeks, one called 'Preserve prediction for its proper uses,"

As - there is prediction, but there's also a bit of self-fulfilling prophecy in everything we say. . so, prediction is possible but one shouldn't. . .like- shouldn't try to influence others to fail, etc., things like that; because 99.9% of the time, that kind of thing is just unconnected, unrelated, and unbeneficial, just random projections of things not going well because we've seen something not go well, etc.

Also, prediction is largely not a super-natural process, it's just intuition and understanding of how the world works, and when we are functioning at our highest, we can fit those pieces together in ways we wouldn't normally be able to understand -- therefore understanding or predicting with accuracy, seeing into the future clearly.

It's sort of just understanding cause and effect -- and then piecing together all the events and causes, and what will likely happen.

Then there are many other types of things like this -- because in fact, everything in the universe is connected, and it is all just one fractal pattern. . . so in this boundless spectrum, there are many possibilities which aren't easily found or understood, yet they are possible to reach --

Above all, my philosophy for life has been really to not worry about anything, as everything develops naturally. . . glimpses of futures and stuff; these shouldn't be grasped after, but they will come naturally when one is functioning at one's best, and. . . I'm sure it would be possible to reach a much, much higher level of prophecy or presaging, which is again, why I come back to the idea of letting them occur naturally, and also using them only for their proper uses.


When people start to say things like, "There's no truth in this world," just ignore this silliness.  If I am in the market today and I say I am, that is true; same as with any other true statement.  Truth is what's real, etc. :-)

Also I like what Kafka said.

If you see that by a wave of the hand, you affect all the cosmos -- don't stop waving your hands. . . rather walk down the streat releasing all your energy, and live very freely; for in free life we have much joy.

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Re: Seeing through people used to be fun, now seems like a curse [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #21590197 - 04/24/15 11:31 AM (9 years, 26 days ago)


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Re: Seeing through people used to be fun, now seems like a curse [Re: janedownthelane]
    #21590245 - 04/24/15 11:41 AM (9 years, 26 days ago)

you were playing with fire my friend, and u got burned.


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Re: Seeing through people used to be fun, now seems like a curse [Re: quinn]
    #21590299 - 04/24/15 11:59 AM (9 years, 26 days ago)

Hello.

I read through it more, and wanted to say- can understand exactly how you feel - the burden of it;

once you see you are exactly how you should be, then the burden is rather lifted. . .

when you see that you are creating your world, your universe, your life --

it might seem like it's heavier burden then, but it's actually lighter --

because you are not worrying about what others think,

or what they would try to make you believe --

you are naturally you -- and free and strong,

exactly as you should be, as all life is before time;

natural, free, strong, kind, healthy, forever and ever; never sick,

not for a slightest instant, as it is impossible to experience illness or poor health,

in the state of existence which is free from all bonds, for all time and since before time even began.



And as for prescience -- part of it is simply coming to know how old and wise you are;

we have all been on this planet for billions of years -- and within us is the wisdom of that time spent here.

A being which has existed here for billions of years, can easily see a decade into the future. . .

It would be like a person who is only aware of one life here, seeing ahead

2 seconds.


So just keep it up -- anything that makes you healthy, strong, kind, peaceful, happy -- because when you are these things,

then you shine these qualities to all others, and you make the world's burden lighter;

because you teach how to be free, to be kind, to be wise,

and at peace,

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Re: Seeing through people used to be fun, now seems like a curse [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #21590626 - 04/24/15 01:35 PM (9 years, 26 days ago)

This is quite common. Happens to me and many folks I know.
Focus on being a good person and serving others in other ways.
You have a lot of mental energy going to an anxious place, point it somewhere more positive.
Connect with your higher power.
When you feel this stuff, respect people's autonomy and destiny.  Things happen for a reason.  You have something to learn via these insights, maybe that's part of it. 
I do understand how hard it can be, but the idea that you're responsible for saving people is a trick of your ego.
But usually there's nothing wrong with saying "I am worried about this and I hope you're ok," and being there for someone when something does happens, being supportive and understanding. After all, people don't have a reason to trust you unless you are good to them!

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Re: Seeing through people used to be fun, now seems like a curse [Re: cypressroots]
    #21605393 - 04/27/15 06:36 PM (9 years, 23 days ago)

this sounds really interesting, I hope you can find a way where it doesnt feel like a curse anymore!

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