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So I finally picked up some rye...
    #21580284 - 04/22/15 01:24 PM (9 years, 28 days ago)

Holy shit, I did not expect it to be so much easier to work with than wbs, but wow. It is, what can I say? There is no mess at all. With wbs you can wash it for awhile and when you dunk it the water will still look somewhat murky. Even if it's clear after a simmer the water is yet again murky and full of starches and sugars. This not only makes wbs sticky, but it takes a lot longer to dry. With rye I take it right out of the bag and it's clean, boil it and the water has a slight yellow tinge, that's it. Dump it in a strainer and it's ready to go in 10-20 min. With wbs I have to wait hours in the sun and wind; yesterday I waited overnight even for it to dry, ~12+ hours. Not to mention rye is much cheaper. No way I'm going back to wbs. :bananadance:

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Re: So I finally picked up some rye... [Re: krypto2000]
    #21580512 - 04/22/15 02:53 PM (9 years, 28 days ago)

I used 75lbs of rhy before I touched wbs. Since then I've gone through hundreds of pounds of wbs. I like both.

Wbs doesn't need a simmer. after a 12-24 hour hot water gypsum/coffee soak (no rinse/simmer)
I throw a few gallons over 20lbs at a time to rinse, spread it out, flip it 20 minutes later and load.
total time prep not counting soak: 22 minutes. 2 minutes to fill the bucket up to dump over the grains

if you make less than that at a time fooman's tek is easy.

no further straining or rinsing required. looking at loads of wbs spawn jars from preping doing this right now.
(because wbs is less expensive.. if it where the case rhy was less expensive I would use it solely)

obviously some of the most practiced cultivators on this board use wbs no problemo.

Edited by filthyknees (04/22/15 02:56 PM)

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Re: So I finally picked up some rye... [Re: filthyknees]
    #21580560 - 04/22/15 03:05 PM (9 years, 28 days ago)

i find that my rye grain is never "clean" and needs to be rinsed several times before the soak. you may want to just try and rinse also if you ever find your self having problems..
Good luck on your venture! rye is where its at!

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Re: So I finally picked up some rye... [Re: Hashish]
    #21580565 - 04/22/15 03:08 PM (9 years, 28 days ago)

Whole oats are cool too


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Re: So I finally picked up some rye... [Re: Grey]
    #21586263 - 04/23/15 02:54 PM (9 years, 27 days ago)

Maybe it's just that my rye happens to be clean then. I've never found remotely clean wbs though. I also only do a simmer because it speeds up drying time dramatically, if it were just for hydration purposes I could simply let the grains soak longer if need be. If I get the water/seed to 212f it will dry in about 40-120 minutes. If I do not simmer it will take anywhere from 4 up to 24 hours even.

I generally do 20-40lbs at a time so it takes a while to dry, in large part because all of the starches hold the water like mud. These days I soak for ~12-18 hours, simmer, rinse very thoroughly to get any remaining starches off, then I pour a big pot of boiling water over them to bring the temperature back up and help them dry faster. I have yet to do a large batch of rye, but based on my ~10qt batch I expect it to be a breeze.

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Re: So I finally picked up some rye... [Re: krypto2000]
    #21586282 - 04/23/15 02:58 PM (9 years, 27 days ago)

no problems, only solutions :cool:

try diy - this cost me ~$3 and strains 20lbs every 20 minutes like I say

wood, screen, four nails, staples :smile:



haven't tried it with rhy though

btw my wbs always looks a little wet when being loaded


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Re: So I finally picked up some rye... [Re: filthyknees]
    #21586320 - 04/23/15 03:06 PM (9 years, 27 days ago)

That is exactly what I use actually lol, same damn thing. I just built a much wider, and more shallow, one a few days ago. The increased surface area should help out alot. I think my new one is maybe 2x2 and a few inches deep where as the older ones (I had 2) were ~1x1.5 and maybe 8 inches deep or so. The middle would just hold in so much water. This should help a lot too.

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Re: So I finally picked up some rye... [Re: filthyknees]
    #21586321 - 04/23/15 03:06 PM (9 years, 27 days ago)

As a recent rye convert after mucho mucho wbs, I have to agree, it's great stuff.  I however just follow Stamets recipe out of his books, add water, rye, and gypsum to my jars, swirl, and toss in PC! Never anything but awesome out of em.  Colonization is amazing, it's clean and easy, and the best part is I can load up jars in minutes--going from nothing to inoculation in like 6 hours.


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