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what type of mush is this
    #2158121 - 12/04/03 02:28 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I bought some syringes of what they called Fat Stem mushrooms...but there not really fat..well atleast not yet anyway...i got them growning, BRF/VERM...to a all vermiculite casing..its been growing pretty good so far..there growing at 75 percent humidity.


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Re: what type of mush is this [Re: ]
    #2158147 - 12/04/03 02:43 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

dude..i did read the FAQ..i know they are cubenis...im asking for what type they are.. this post is relevant...thats why i asked..people in mushroom hunting will have ten times more experience then i would...thats why i asked....


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Re: what type of mush is this [Re: ]
    #2158207 - 12/04/03 03:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I understand what your saying...so when identifying a mushroom...you just go...oh its a cube...your not intrested if its hawaiian or EQ, or B+?



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Re: what type of mush is this [Re: ]
    #2158319 - 12/04/03 03:57 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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your not intrested if its hawaiian or EQ, or B+?




We might be interested, but since it's still all the same species and the appearance of the fruitbodies depends in a greater degree upon the circumstances they grow in than on what strain of the species it is, it's absolutely impossible to conclude which strain it is. So I'm sorry, but we can't help you with this one. No one can.


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Re: what type of mush is this [Re: thechemist]
    #2158447 - 12/04/03 04:34 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry, but the Mushroom Hunting forum is dedicated towards the identification of wild mushrooms.

I will be moving this thread into the Mushroom Cultivation forum.

Like others have said, its quite impossible to ID a strain... You already know its Psilocybe cubensis.




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Re: what type of mush is this [Re: ]
    #2158485 - 12/04/03 04:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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BulletRide said:
No, I am not because they are all the same thing. Ps. Cubensis. They may have a few characteristics that set them apart(strains that is). But I can guarantee that each strain will look different with each flush/different cake. It's all environmental factors. Cubensis are Cubensis, plain and simple. 




Very well said.  :thumbup:


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Re: what type of mush is this [Re: Gumby]
    #2158498 - 12/04/03 04:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

thread shoulda been locked...not sent here.


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Re: what type of mush is this [Re: angryshroom]
    #2158505 - 12/04/03 04:56 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Ok everyone..if your still following me on this..im still puzzled..im not stupiud..just trying to grasp it seems what others already know...

becasue of different temp, humidity, environment, and other thing..etc. etc. ,.... a regular mushroom could look different..so how do you know if the strain you think you are growing is really it?

so basically...cubensis is the type...and B+ is the strain...so when you are buying lets say syringes or prints...your really buying a strain of a B+ mushroom..

..like the mushrooms i got going...they may be called the "fat stem" but really they are some form of another mushroom..we should be able to identify what type of mushroom by the charctr. of it right?..like if you get a mushroom and the caps start to turn over...there is only a couple types of mushrooms that do that...


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Re: what type of mush is this [Re: thechemist]
    #2158526 - 12/04/03 05:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Ok everyone..if your still following me on this..im still puzzled..im not stupiud..just trying to grasp it seems what others already know...

becasue of different temp, humidity, environment, and other thing..etc. etc. ,.... a regular mushroom could look different..so how do you know if the strain you think you are growing is really it?




You don't really. The only way to know would be to grow them in exact parameters and then compare their characteristics (growth rate, size, color, veil, ect...) to descriptions from some good source. But, in the end you will still only be guessing.


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Re: what type of mush is this [Re: thechemist]
    #2159268 - 12/04/03 09:31 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Its hard to tell what strain you actually got, because the characteristics will not always follow through in the spores printed. The spores printed can create a completely different type of mycelium from the host mushroom.

It has a huge deal with environmental conditions and substrate.


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Re: what type of mush is this [Re: angryshroom]
    #2159452 - 12/04/03 10:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Interesting casing. Looks like you can get alot more surface area with this method.


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Re: what type of mush is this [Re: SixCee]
    #2159579 - 12/04/03 10:51 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

ahh but that surface area doesnt seem to have pinned very well. :smirk: 
want more surface area, put the whole colonized casing in a chicken wire apparatus suspended about 6 inches from the base of your terrarium.  fruit the top (cased) and the bottom (uncased)...probly a bit harder to keep the RH right tho.

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Re: what type of mush is this [Re: angryjslice]
    #2159652 - 12/04/03 11:24 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It seems he didn't let it colonize the casing medium enough.


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Re: what type of mush is this [Re: SixCee]
    #2162498 - 12/05/03 07:45 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

yeah..it started pinning even before it was fully colonized...


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Re: what type of mush is this [Re: thechemist]
    #2162834 - 12/05/03 10:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

incubate it longer next time after applying casing layer before moving to fruiting environment...they aren't going to know how much to colonize before they start pinning on their own, they aren't that smart. :smile: if you lower the temp and give them light they will pin then..so it is up to you to control when they start pinning. 


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Re: what type of mush is this [Re: jong21]
    #2162913 - 12/05/03 11:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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so basically...cubensis is the type...and B+ is the strain...so when you are buying lets say syringes or prints...your really buying a strain of a B+ mushroom..




hey man, Cubensis is a SPECIES, just like Azurescen is a SPECIES, and so is Cyanescens.

The Species Cubensis is the most common and easiest to grow.  Cubensis have a variety of different "strains".  People find some cubies in the wild, and make a name up for them, "oh new strain", thats all it is really.  Sure some of them may look different, but mostly any strain is going to look the same with very minor differences, otherwise if it varied that greatly(not only looks, but CHEMISTRY) it would be a different "Species."

B+ is just a strain of Cubensis,Equador is just a strain of Cubensis, Hawaiin(found in hawaii :blush:) is just a strain of Cubensis.

reason you see so many of the cubensis strain is because like i said they are easiest to grow and average on potency, the "perfect" mushroom to start growing and eating :laugh:

understand? 


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