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Invisiblesilversoul7
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Polygamy and Incest
    #2156298 - 12/03/03 08:42 PM (13 years, 10 days ago)

Many opponents of gay marriage have made a slippery-slope argument where if you allow gay marriage that it would lead to legalization of things like polygamy and incest. But I have yet to hear anyone ask what to me is an obvious question: So what? If a man wants to marry more than one woman, and all of them are ok with that, why shouldn't he be allowed to do so? If a brother and sister want to marry each other, how does that impinge on anyone else's freedom? Can anyone give me a rational argument as to why these things should be illegal?


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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: silversoul7]
    #2156317 - 12/03/03 08:48 PM (13 years, 10 days ago)

Incest isn't marriage it is sex. Most municipalities WILL allow "close family marriages", if you guarantee yo will not reproduce.


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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: enimatpyrt]
    #2156319 - 12/03/03 08:49 PM (13 years, 10 days ago)

Just more assaulting on typical White Christian value. The freakier, the better.


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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: enimatpyrt]
    #2156330 - 12/03/03 08:55 PM (13 years, 10 days ago)

White Christian values are fine as long as they're not used as the basis for laws. There's a thing called the Establishment Clause in the Bill of Rights, and I prefer that we abide by it.

PS: Do you keep getting banned or something? You keep coming back with new names. First JohnnyRespect, then lysergic, now this. Pick a name and stick with it.


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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: silversoul7]
    #2156716 - 12/03/03 11:01 PM (13 years, 10 days ago)

Incest is different, it affects their children and their right to not be retarted


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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: LaCasta]
    #2157012 - 12/04/03 12:50 AM (13 years, 10 days ago)

Hey, lots of kids turn out fucked up even without incest. I don't go around blaming my parents for me not being as handsome as I'd like to be. Intelligence, looks, etc. are privileges, not rights. Come to think of it, Bush should be in favor of legalizing incest. The more retarded people people there are, the bigger his voting base.


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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: silversoul7]
    #2157065 - 12/04/03 01:13 AM (13 years, 10 days ago)

In my experience the right wing Christian outlook seems to be "Golly,if they legalize gay marriages,I'll have to be gay too."


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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: silversoul7]
    #2157122 - 12/04/03 01:31 AM (13 years, 10 days ago)

I'm too angry about the entire issue to even frame a reply.

I'll just say,
I am proud to be a citizen of Mass, and I'm proud my mom's partner will one day be able get the same state benefits my step-mom does.





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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: monoamine]
    #2157132 - 12/04/03 01:34 AM (13 years, 10 days ago)

Really?

I haven't picked up on that one.

I believe that as far as marriage and the government is concerned, marriage should be just like any other contract between two or more people. Like a civil partnership. A marriage is just a very small for-profit organization.


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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: monoamine]
    #2157167 - 12/04/03 01:48 AM (13 years, 10 days ago)

Damn right, monoamine.

Or more like:

if we allow gays to exist,
my kids will be gay.


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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2157170 - 12/04/03 01:50 AM (13 years, 10 days ago)

I mean that see it as a direct assault on their "values" like it's going turn every other person gay and totally destroy the institution of marriage. I don't know where you live,but the southern Baptists around here are quite nasty...


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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: monoamine]
    #2157291 - 12/04/03 03:00 AM (13 years, 10 days ago)

I don't really associate with any christians.


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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: silversoul7]
    #2157333 - 12/04/03 03:35 AM (13 years, 10 days ago)

Some dude in Utah is appealing his polygamy charges. I'm glad to see the Mormon's chipping in and pushing the envelope. Harems legal in 2005!


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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: LaCasta]
    #2157752 - 12/04/03 11:19 AM (13 years, 9 days ago)

is the right not to be retarded guaranteed by
the bill of rights?


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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: silversoul7]
    #2157934 - 12/04/03 12:56 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

The bible

The USA is run by the Christian thought.That's it. That's all there is to it. The bible says it's bad, so it's bad.





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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: Learyfan]
    #2158119 - 12/04/03 02:26 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

religion shall be the death of us...


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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: Azmodeus]
    #2158138 - 12/04/03 02:39 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

The US is only residually run by christian thought. It was founded primarily by christians so early laws are gonna reflect that. I dont think it will be long before gay marriages are made legal through most of the US as it is becoming more and more a lifestyle accepted if not always respected in mainstreem US. Poligamy doesnt seem as likely to recieve mainstream acceptance due simply to the extremely few numbers of individuals that can make such an arrangement work. Everyone i personally know would go crazy jelousy ape shit on their significant others significant others. Incest however is a different story than both of these. Laws promoting healthy children will not ever be changed. And if a brother and sister really wanted to be together with a child they could always adopt or get doner sperm or something. There are alternatives to being a genetic father and uncle.


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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: Totalay]
    #2158180 - 12/04/03 03:06 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

I dont know where or why the law got involved and made these things illegal either. Not that they're right, but I dont see how the government should have a say in it.


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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: Learyfan]
    #2158642 - 12/04/03 05:37 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

Quote:

Learyfan said:
The bible

The USA is run by the Christian thought.That's it. That's all there is to it. The bible says it's bad, so it's bad.



Which part of the Bible? There are parts of the Bible which seem to support polygamy.


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Re: Polygamy and Incest [Re: silversoul7]
    #2158651 - 12/04/03 05:40 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

Use the part that supports what your saying...ignore the rest...its full of contradictions.


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