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DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA
#21554495 - 04/16/15 09:15 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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DEA using advanced spyware surveillance
Posting from my phone so if someone could post the article it would be appreciated.
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: Pariahprose] 1
#21554623 - 04/16/15 09:53 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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The DEA's using powerful spyware for surveillance too

The war on drugs has a surprising soldier amongst its ranks: Italian spying software. As Motherboard's sources tell it, the Drug Enforcement Administration's dropped $2.4 million on surveillance tools that are capable of intercepting phone calls, texts, social media messages, and can even take hold of someone's webcam and microphone. Oh, Remote Control System (as its officially called) can grab passwords, too. Almost sounds like a video game, right? The Hacking Team-developed software (the outfit behind Ethiopian cyberattacks on US journalists), can be installed on the sly and grants access to data that may very well be encrypted or otherwise inaccessible by other means. It comes hot on the heels of news that the DEA's been collecting phonecall metadata for an awfully lot longer than the NSA, too. Naturally, no one on either side of the story has been eager to open up to Motherboard, and presumably journalists in general.
Perhaps the biggest question this raises is if it's legal for law enforcement to hack perps. Motherboard's privacy analyst sources note that because the laws surrounding how these types of tools are "extremely unclear" it stands to reason that using RCS is possibly illegal. Given how it's rolled downhill from the intelligence community to law enforcement, there's a fear that it could eventually hit your local police department too. Remember, for law enforcement to do any sort of searches a judge needs to sign a warrant first.
And there's precedent for them smacking this sort of thing down: Judges have intervened and not allowed the FBI to use malware before. Hopefully this can spark a public debate and get the drug agency's use of RCS in front of government officials and formal investigation or reform can begin. Motherboard's piece is an excellent read, so be sure to hit the links below.
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
#21555893 - 04/16/15 03:21 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you. Fucked up that they have been doing this though.
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: Pariahprose]
#21556077 - 04/16/15 04:07 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: rxb]
#21558007 - 04/17/15 12:14 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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none of this is really surprising. we know they've been able to remotely take over the phone's mic and cam for some time now, and it doesnt help if you turn the phone off.. they can run a program so that the phone doesnt really shut all the way down. the only real way around that is taking out the battery.
anyway.. they have powerful algorythms that pick up keywords... they know code words too apparently. if you spell them incorrectly it maybe possible to get past it, but this is just hearsay.
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: 404]
#21558016 - 04/17/15 12:17 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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soon phones will have capacitors made into the shape of the phone. they will charge much faster but you wont be able to take them out.
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: rxb]
#21558178 - 04/17/15 01:11 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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sauce?
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: 404]
#21558206 - 04/17/15 01:34 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Awesome. If they have the N S A reject stuff, I wonder what the N S A really has
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: DrRedBush]
#21558651 - 04/17/15 07:33 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good thing I don't text, facebook, or call people about drugs. In person face to face. Unless they bugged my house you will never get incriminating messages from me. I have always assumed someone was listening, even in the days of landlines and payphones.
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: 404]
#21559244 - 04/17/15 10:59 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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404 said: sauce?
i assume you want a source on capacitors ... i dont have a source per say, its just the logical jump. capacitors are getting better and cheaper, i switched my truck battery out for a capacitor bank, that cost me $60 because i got them used.
the ones i used werent available to ANYONE until 2011.
i can charge them from dead to full in about 2 minutes with a standard car battery charger. mine is a 40 amp charge smart charger from black and decker.
the benefits are that it has better cranking in cold weather. (my truck is diesel)... and charges to full faster.
the downside is that if i leave my lights on, it only holds charge for about 3 hours. vs maybe 8 with batteries. (i've not tested these numbers its a guess).
capacitors are lighter and can be formed into shapes... its just the logical progression. as the farads per dollar go up we move further and further from batteries.
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: rxb]
#21560070 - 04/17/15 03:18 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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True
A lot of phones batteries are not removable anyways
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: DrRedBush]
#21560328 - 04/17/15 04:33 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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DrRedBush said: True
A lot of phones batteries are not removable anyways
Not Android lol. But it looks like the Galaxy S6 will NOT have a removable battery, which is B.S.
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: AEL1911]
#21560668 - 04/17/15 05:43 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Rxb is right though. Soon all phones will not have a removable battery.
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: DrRedBush]
#21562074 - 04/18/15 01:43 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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If everyone that did drugs, sold drugs, and approved of drugs, would stop hiding, dipping, and dodging.....buy a motherfucking gun.....and unitedly stand up and say "Listen to me, and watch me all you want you toothpick dick, sorry sacks of plant food, I can experiment with my mind and body the way I choose, leave me the fuck alone."
It's ok for the government to walk around strapped, testing chemicals on people, taking over small islands and torturing and murdering civilians, and being blatantly high on cocaine while controlling the goddamn drug trade!!!!!
I'm getting sick of this world.....very....very.....very damn near can't put the fuck up with it sick.
Also OP, this shit isn't news. You think the public is, has been, or ever will be up to date on what's currently going on politically? Scientifically? Medically? Legally? Spiritually? We are fucking peons. Always have been. Piss drink slaves that will never get the capacity that some do. The one's who have the knowledge and control have been way ahead of the game for eons past, and eons to come.
Might as well blow your head off, or just fucking obey.
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: rxb]
#21562214 - 04/18/15 03:44 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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So wait... If i got this right, you changed out your battery out for a capacitor bank? So you switched your battery for a battery?
How does the alternator keep shit going??? You headlights only last you three hours? whyyy
does your alternator still lift??
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: 404]
#21562669 - 04/18/15 09:10 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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i took maxwell super caps, and put 6 in series...maxwell 2600 farad caps 2.5vx6 = 15v 433.33 farads
most of the time it works better than a car battery. unless you leave your lights on.
also the more stuff you have that runs with the engine off the more likely you are to need to charge it.
but it charges INSANELY fast. and is lighter than a lead acid batt
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: rxb]
#21562681 - 04/18/15 09:14 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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and the alternator charges it fine. i didnt put a regulator on mine, and i really need to, because if the alternator puts out more than 15v it might screw up the capacitors.
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: rxb]
#21562689 - 04/18/15 09:18 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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im guessing on the headlights, and i mean if the car is off i doubt they'd last as long as with lead acid.
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: Pariahprose]
#21564930 - 04/18/15 06:23 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Remember, for law enforcement to do any sort of searches a judge needs to sign a warrant first.
Not true. To use the fruits of a search as evidence against you in court law enforcement needs to stay within the bounds of the Fourth Amendment (what's left of it). But to get leads, information for the furtherance of investigations, or to jerk off while watching you in the shower, law enforcement doesn't need a warrant or even probable cause.
Stop me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the only legal recourse we have against illegal searches is what's called a "Section 1983" lawsuit, which is often used but rarely effective. Especially if we have no idea that the search (or cellphone intrusion, etc.) occurred.
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Re: DEA Has Been Watching You Longer Than The NSA [Re: Sidestreet]
#21565592 - 04/18/15 09:41 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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It has been seen that police do surveillance with devices that are very stealthy. In some cases they have done so without warrants. It doesn't surprise me to think there would be more people than the DEA and NSA listening.
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