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Harvesting....when are shrooms most potent?
    #2154556 - 12/03/03 11:51 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I've read in a few different teks when you should pick your mushrooms. i was wondering when is the best time to pick the mushrooms while they are the most potent. ive heard the longer you let them grow, the less potent they get. is this true?


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Re: Harvesting....when are shrooms most potent? [Re: btag]
    #2154571 - 12/03/03 11:56 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I think that most people state that picking them just before/after/during the partial veil begins to seperate is the best. As for proof of that, I don't think any has ever been presented.


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Re: Harvesting....when are shrooms most potent? [Re: btag]
    #2154575 - 12/03/03 11:57 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

uhm , from what i know the shrooms most potent stage is right before it breaks the veil , cause after that insted of being focused in producing psilocybin it starst sporulating , i pick them before they break the veil :laugh:


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Re: Harvesting....when are shrooms most potent? [Re: btag]
    #2154587 - 12/03/03 12:00 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Well I would assume that the longer they are exposed to oxygen, the less potent they become over time. I have heard that you should pick right before the veil tears. This is purely just preference. I'm pretty sure that aborts are just as potent as the mushroom itself. Just eat as fresh as possible. It doesnt really matter when you pick. Just pick before they go to seed and get spores all over the place.


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Re: Harvesting....when are shrooms most potent? [Re: fleshofgods]
    #2160657 - 12/05/03 08:06 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

the veil is irrelevant to the potency of the mushroom - right before the fruit starts to drop spores is the best time to ensure the spores dont inhibited further fruiting - and before the mushroom body stops maturing and begins to decay.
The problem of the veil is that some strains of cubensis lose their veil very early - others very late - this doesnt affect their potency at all.


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Re: Harvesting....when are shrooms most potent? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #7641530 - 11/15/07 09:45 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Ok, so as far as we know... there is nothing that proves that waiting for caps to open up (to take prints, or for the little extra bit of weight they put on in the end) causes a significant decrease in potency compared to mushrooms that are picked before they open their caps up?

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Re: Harvesting....when are shrooms most potent? [Re: Azurescendence]
    #7641575 - 11/15/07 09:53 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I was a firm believer in the "pick them before the viel breaks" until i had let some open up completely (most for cool pictures) and they were equally potent by dry weight as previous ones i had picked earlier.... IMO


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Re: Harvesting....when are shrooms most potent? [Re: LVL12]
    #7641580 - 11/15/07 09:55 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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I was a firm believer in the "pick them before the viel breaks" until i had let some open up completely (most for cool pictures) and they were equally potent by dry weight as previous ones i had picked earlier.... IMO




Interesting... This is good to know. I would like to let as many as possible mature so that I may print them for continuation of the strain and so that I can contribute some to the community (FSRs and such).

Anyone else want to weigh in on this issue?

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Re: Harvesting....when are shrooms most potent? [Re: Azurescendence]
    #7641597 - 11/15/07 10:00 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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I was a firm believer in the "pick them before the viel breaks" until i had let some open up completely (most for cool pictures) and they were equally potent by dry weight as previous ones i had picked earlier.... IMO




Interesting... This is good to know. I would like to let as many as possible mature so that I may print them for continuation of the strain and so that I can contribute some to the community (FSRs and such).

Anyone else want to weigh in on this issue?

:peace:




I do believe though, from what i've read, that allowing them to drop spores on the substrate hinders additional flushes, would make sense to me, the cycle of life and whatnot...

But i haven't really done any sort of observations to verify this myself.


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Re: Harvesting....when are shrooms most potent? [Re: LVL12]
    #7641608 - 11/15/07 10:02 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

So assuming that potency isn't effected negatively by allowing the mushrooms to mature enough to be able to print the opened caps... you would be good as long as you picked said fruits before they upturned all the way and ejected/dropped their spores?


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Re: Harvesting....when are shrooms most potent? [Re: Azurescendence]
    #7641615 - 11/15/07 10:04 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I prefer to pick mine whenever they look the prettiest. Sometimes I let them grow out flat, or sometimes right after the veil breaks, just whenever they look nice :smile:  There is no significant difference if any at all. IF there was, then the difference would only be that a shroom before the veil breaks may have more psilocybin for its body size, but even then, the difference would be so small you couldn't feel it.

Also, think about how many you will have growing, then letting each one of those grow 1/2 inch taller than the veils breaking. Adding 1/2 inch to all your shrooms (being how many you may have) will increase your total weight, therefor, you can get more for your grow. If you have massive amounts, it can add up much more, several grams depending. :smile:


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Re: Harvesting....when are shrooms most potent? [Re: Azurescendence]
    #7641637 - 11/15/07 10:10 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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So assuming that potency isn't effected negatively by allowing the mushrooms to mature enough to be able to print the opened caps... you would be good as long as you picked said fruits before they upturned all the way and ejected/dropped their spores?




If your main concern is getting prints, then i wouldnt worry about much else, wait for the viels to break and them to open up a bit, then take prints, my first few grows i took about 10 prints, then on my next couple i took about 50 more, I have no recolection of it ever effecting potency or hindering the growth of any of my projects.

its not a big enough difference that you have to choose between potency or prints. You'll definatly get what you want out of both.


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Re: Harvesting....when are shrooms most potent? [Re: LVL12]
    #7641652 - 11/15/07 10:13 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Harvesting....when are shrooms most potent? [Re: orchidfanatic]
    #7641658 - 11/15/07 10:15 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I figured that that would be the case, but I'm glad to hear from some people who have experience doing it both ways (picking early and late).  Thank you all. :smile:

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Re: Harvesting....when are shrooms most potent? [Re: Azurescendence]
    #7642007 - 11/15/07 11:37 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

i aint gonna lie, my first grow i ate the first 4 mushrooms that pop up and soon as the cap pop, im talking soon as it pop i ate them dirt and all, so good, so good. (minus the dirt) but yea, have some water near by dirt is not good to eat . lol


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Re: Harvesting....when are shrooms most potent? [Re: QDP843]
    #7642082 - 11/15/07 11:55 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

there is no doubt fresh is better than dried but fresh gives you
bad stomach discomfort .. but only sometimes.. only happened to me once
and that was a while ago .


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Re: Harvesting....when are shrooms most potent? [Re: orchidfanatic]
    #7642973 - 11/16/07 06:31 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah i love fresh shrooms, i find that dry shrooms give me a sorer stomach than fresh, infact the last time i munched down a massive 10 gram fruit, i had the most intense body buzz without any sickness!.


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