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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21673894 - 05/13/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Correct.  Those jars look good.


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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: hamloaf]
    #21678151 - 05/14/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

yeah ive had some bruise up a little after shakes but they get rite after a couple days like all bruises do

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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: professorFATTYCAP]
    #21682262 - 05/15/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

So another update

4/15 Considering spawning the last 4 its been a month today...

4/18

4/21 I'd call it time for a shake.

Tiger dropped jars from 10 days ago,  no signs of contam yet.
Considering shaking, only been shaken once.

Let's talk tubs, I did the water in qt jars to measure my sub depth at 3 inches it took 14qts. The tub is only 10.5' tall. Now I'm trying to figure out spawn sub ratio... Is it necessary to pasteurize my coir?

I've included a link to my last grow,
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21061673/fpart/all/vc/1
I used the bucket tek and was working with mini monos. I lost 1 of 4 tubs to trich. So I'm trying to be precautious this time. I also used a shit liner last time causing everything to get top and bottom pins.

I have this for liner this time, hoping it gets the job done.
There's no pesticides or harmful chemicals its just a role of fabric used for garden beds. Thought the UV block was a bonus plus its all they had at home depot.

My last tubs were very small so I'm trying to figure out measurements for my poly holes on the 44qt tubs at sub level and the size of the elevated holes as well.

Any and all advice, I got my ears and eyes open guys.

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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21682692 - 05/15/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Anybody?

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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21685288 - 05/15/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Is 4:10 a good ratio, or would 5:9 be better?
All I'm trying to figure out at this point is spawn ratio
I currently have 23 jars and aiming for 5 44qt tubs
Which would be about 4.6qts spawn per tub.
Now what ratio should I use to get 3" of spawn/sub
Which I know takes 14qts of water to reach the 3"line
Which brings me to trying to find the perfect spawn/sub ration for 14qts
Would 4.5:9.5 or 4:10 or 5:9

How many actual qts are in a brick? Could I just do 4 or 5 to a brick to make everything easier?

Does my coir need anything special or am I good with a brick 2qts verm and the bucket tek?

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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21685345 - 05/15/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Damn dude. A brick of coir expands to roughly 8 quarts and coir doesn't give a shit so use the bucket tek, which makes 10 quarts of substrate with the verm.


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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21685358 - 05/15/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Use a 1:2 spawn to bulk ratio, and it never hurts to add gypsum to any substrate in all stages of the cultivation process, but to not add gypsum to every stage in the cultivation process isn't a deal breaker.


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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: hamloaf]
    #21685361 - 05/15/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

hamloaf said:
Use a 1:2 spawn to bulk ratio, and it never hurts to add gypsum to any substrate in all stages of the cultivation process.



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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21685509 - 05/16/15 12:36 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

So 1:2 is that the same as 4:8? If so thatd be a brick every 4 qts

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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21686546 - 05/16/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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So 1:2 is that the same as 4:8?



I see our school system failed again :facepalm:


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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21686698 - 05/16/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not even going to blame this one on the weed last night.
Try taking a mathematics for liberal arts students and see how your math skills are afterwards. It made me forget math in general.
I know that a ratio is multiplied on both side by the same number to get the new ratio. I was just asking if 5:8 would be over kill.
I don't have much space where I'm at

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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21686722 - 05/16/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

For my 66qt monos I use a 5:10 ratio. 5qt spawn to 10qt substrate. You are over thinking this. I threw 1qt of spawn into a mini mono with an unmeasured amount of sub and it's yielded me over 40g so far. I didn't use any ratios.



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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21692320 - 05/17/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I got some coir mixed in a bucket, letting it cool til early morning
Then I'm going to spawn. I had a 3 pack of coir  and one of the bricks was about the size of two bricks so thatd what I hydrated.
4/15


4/18

I shook these 7 two and a half days ago, they seem to recovered nicely
There is only one jar, top left row, the one with the least in it that had a slight yellow spot. Hoping it nothing was going to spawn it to a mini maybe add an extra qt of colonized rye.

So the plans a big brick of coir/verm combo to 5qt jars hopefully not overkill in a 44qt tub and then a mini with 2 qts and 1/4 brick.

My agar tiger drops are about 75% and along with the jars from 4/21
I'll post pics of those ones in the morning.

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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21693966 - 05/18/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Really over thought everything.
Anyways...
I spawned 5qts to a big brick of coir and ended up exceeding my 3" mark.


Had to make up more coir for my mini and these two jars.


Haven't posted pics of 4/21 but they're still going strong. I'll post more when they're close to 100%

Here's my tiger drops as promised. Still no contam, so to those who doubted my plates I say "can't always judge a book by its cover"

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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21705683 - 05/21/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

My tigers are almost there

Here's 4/21, it's officially been a month. Sadly these are a little behind, but no doubt there only a week out.

Here's the smaller (20qt) tub. (2qts rehydrated rye/ 1/3brickcoir / 1qt verm)(spawned 4/19)

the bigger (44qt)tub. (5qts rehydrated rye/brickcoir/ 2qts verm)(spawned 4/18)
Colonizing considerable fast even though temps have been low around here.

What's the rules on reusing jar lids? "use them till they rust, just replace the poly" does that sounds about right?
Just asking because these plates have been in the fridge for a couple weeks and have reached the sides, I'm looking to transfer and drop.

How many times can you agar to agar before genetics become weak and potency becomes an issue?

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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21706194 - 05/21/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)


Wish someone would have commented on my liner....
Just noticed my tub colonizing through its liner :mad:
Hopefully it isn't a major issue...

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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21721927 - 05/25/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Update lots of pics
Hoping someone will finally respond....?
I have a couple concerns and have read around the forum but wasn't sure what to make of it still.

How do these tubs look?

20qt (5/19)
Wondering what the yellow droplet is?


44qt (5/18)
Wondering what the yellow droplets are?


Here are my tiger drops. There seems to be a single yellow droplet inside. Thought it may have been from the high humidity we've been experiencing lately or because most of the jars have been at 100% for the last couple days... Some post I seen call it "myc piss" idk need some help.

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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21722081 - 05/25/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Oh lord the "mycelium piss" phrase again lol.

Its metabolites


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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: Buck513]
    #21722100 - 05/25/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

That's what I thought, should I wait the full 10days to stuff the poly or what?

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Re: help me with rye questions [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21722124 - 05/25/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Colonization times have many factors like temp, spawn ratio, aggressiveness of the culture, etc.
If it looks ready, fruit it. I'd probably just give it another day


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