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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: setb]
    #21543785 - 04/13/15 07:51 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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L is pretty damn good. Have you tried mescaline? I like it more but it does make me sick to my stomach very early on. Totally worth it.






i wish

mescaline is pretty unheard of in the northeast US


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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: Bassfreak] * 1
    #21543798 - 04/13/15 07:53 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Buy cacti, san pedro is legal you can get it off amazon probably.

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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: murdok]
    #21544016 - 04/13/15 08:37 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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anyone have any personal DOM experiences? I've thought about getting some for a while now




yes, it's a very dreamy chem. i'd recommend it as a fun phenethylamine.

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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: 404]
    #21544037 - 04/13/15 08:42 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Oh! that sounds right up my alley, i'm going to make sure i get some of that in my next run.

Thanks man

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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21544133 - 04/13/15 09:03 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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the only people who "like" NBOMEs are people who are too stupid to even realize that theyre doing em



I like them and I know when I'm doing them.

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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: Ihateyou]
    #21544735 - 04/14/15 12:27 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Bassfreak is just trying to piss people off. Don't even pay attention.


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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: SurReality] * 2
    #21544789 - 04/14/15 12:44 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Yes bassfresk means well.
He only seems rash because he's just been ragin so fuckin hard all his life.
He doesn't have a low setting. It's not his fault, he's just tough as fuck.

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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21544980 - 04/14/15 03:08 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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setb said:
L is pretty damn good. Have you tried mescaline? I like it more but it does make me sick to my stomach very early on. Totally worth it.






i wish

mescaline is pretty unheard of in the northeast US



Impossible for me to find shrooms, mescaline, dmt here in VA

Recently found Lsd. All people wanna do is drink, take adderall and snort coke here where I live. I'm not really interested in any of those things.

People keep telling me that psychedelics are non existent here. I'm still in denial


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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: DOBAS]
    #21544983 - 04/14/15 03:11 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

100 hits of 25b, not a bad acquisition I suppose but why?


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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: setb]
    #21545024 - 04/14/15 03:47 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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setb said:
Don't listen to sheekle, he's a troll. Just be careful with your dosing.




Bullshit. Sheekle knows his psychedelics.

I don't believe OP has access to the ODD forum and this thread: 25I-, 25B- & 25C-NBOMe Incidents & Fatalities: 2014 Year-in-Review

We don't have a thread like this for any other type of drug. What you can't see because you haven't been here long enough, is page after page of reports of NBOME related incidents last year. I'll quote the first post.

Quote:

Ped said:
2014 saw a marked increase in the documentation of NBOMe-related clinical incidents.  The year has shown us that the NBOMe series comes with substantial dangers, and these dangers are made all the more disturbing by the apparent surging popularity of these compounds. The NBOMe series has been associated with the catastrophic breakdown of muscle tissue emergent from a severe metabolic disruption, resulting in rhabdomyolysis and its related multi-organ failure.  This outcome may or may not be connected to serotonin syndrome and/or hyperthermia.  Individuals taking other psychiatric medications with serotonergic effects may be at an elevated risk of complication and fatality.

Below are links to four separate papers outlining nine toxicological hospitalizations, one toxicological fatality, and one likely-neuropsychiatric fatality, all published within the past 3 to 18 months.  Emergent from these papers is a clear message: the NBOMe series is not to be trifled with.  Individuals with prior psychiatric disturbances should avoid this series altogether, while those who choose to experiment are advised to do so sparingly, applying extra care toward precision dosing, and proceeding under the supervision of a trusted, non-intoxicated sitter.


Fatal Outcome Of Status Epilepticus, Hyperthermia, Rhabdomyolysis, Multi-Organ Failure, And Cerebral Edema After 25I-NBOMe Ingestion

We report a case of a 17 year old girl who was taking lithium & topiramate for mood disorders who died following a 251-NBOMe ingestion, portraying the lethality of this drug admixture. She presented in status epilepticus shortly after ingesting an unknown substance on a blotter paper at a music concert. She then acutely developed hyperthermia, metabolic acidosis, rhabdomyolysis, elevated transaminases, acute kidney injury, hypokalemia and hypocalcemia. Subsequently, she developed irreversible cerebral edema and was declared brain dead on hospital day #7.

We suggest that the patient died due to acute 25I-NBOMe ingestion in combination with lithium even though the antemortem lithium concentration was 0.34mmol/L (therapeutic range 0.6 - 1.2mmol/L). This case describes a fatal serotonin syndrome caused by ingestion of 25I-NBOMe concomitantly with lithium which also has serotonergic effects.


Two cases of severe intoxication associated with analytically confirmed use of the novel psychoactive substances 25B-NBOMe and 25C-NBOMe

Two male patients (17 and 31 years of age) had ingested drugs labelled as 'NBOMe' or 'Holland film' and developed confusion, agitation, hypertension, tachycardia, hyperthermia, sweating and dilated pupils. Other features included convulsion, rhabdomyolysis and deranged liver function.


Severe clinical toxicity associated with analytically confirmed recreational use of 25I-NBOMe: case series

Seven patients, all young adult males, presented to hospitals in the northeast of England with clinical toxicity after recreational drug use in January 2013. Clinical features included tachycardia (n = 7), hypertension (4), agitation (6), aggression, visual and auditory hallucinations (6), seizures (3), hyperpyrexia (3), clonus (2), elevated white cell count (2), elevated creatine kinase (7), metabolic acidosis (3), and acute kidney injury (1). LC-MS/MS analysis identified 25I-NBOMe as the main active substance in the plasma of all seven cases.


Postmortem detection of 25I-NBOMe in fluids and tissues determined by high performance liquid chromatography with tandem mass spectrometry from a traumatic death

The decedent was a healthy 19-year-old man with no prior history of alcohol, tobacco or drug abuse. The decedent was reportedly “trip-sitting” for his friends who were using “acid” on the evening of his death. “Trip sitting” refers to someone who remains drug free for the purpose of monitoring the safety of those under the influence of a drug. At some point that evening, the decedent either knowingly or unknowingly ingested blotter paper infused with “acid”. Subsequently, the friends noticed that the decedent began to display strange and paranoid behavior, and they all agreed it would be a good idea to leave their gathering place and go for a walk. Reportedly, the decedent’s behavior became increasingly more bizarre and he abruptly walked away from his friends. His apparent bizarre behavior may be related to the fact this was the first time he had ingested a hallucinogenic drug. He was normally the trip sitter. The other individuals that took the same drug that night did not display similar side-effects but all of them had used the drug in the past. The friends went to his apartment in search of him, and found him prone and unresponsive on the pavement near the apartment complex swimming pool. 911 was activated, and shortly thereafter he was pronounced dead at the scene. According to police and paramedics, the decedent apparently had either jumped or had fallen accidentally from his apartment balcony, which was located multiple stories above the pool deck. Upon questioning, the friends informed police that the decedent had not been behaving normally that evening.



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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: koods]
    #21545034 - 04/14/15 03:56 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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The NBOMe series has been associated with the catastrophic breakdown of muscle tissue emergent from a severe metabolic disruption, resulting in rhabdomyolysis and its related multi-organ failure.  This outcome may or may not be connected to serotonin syndrome and/or hyperthermia.  Individuals taking other psychiatric medications with serotonergic effects may be at an elevated risk of complication and fatality.




i know someone that's taken 150 mg and is on other psychiatric medications with serotonergic effects... why arent they dead?


i want to know the truth behind this, i dont think we have the full picture on this at all yet. that shit scares me too... but i wanna know why im not dead considred i've eaten many hits over the course of a single night myself other friends way more.

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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: 404]
    #21545046 - 04/14/15 04:08 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

There's probably no answer. They are RESEARCH CHEMICALS. There isn't a lot of info on what effects they may or may not have, and their toxicity. All we can go by is these anecdotal reports and the occasional journal write up. What is clear is that there are far more reports of bad outcomes and medical emergencies with this class of drug than any of the other commonly used psychedelic recreational drugs.

Probably the most dangerous situation is when the user thinks they are taking LSD. LSD is a very safe drug physiologically, even at high doses. People know this. Someone who thinks they have LSD and takes 5 or 10 hits, or combines it with other amphetamine type drugs  is in serious danger if they actually took an NBOME.

However, people have died from taking a normal suggested NBOME dose.


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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: koods]
    #21545078 - 04/14/15 04:54 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

which is exactly why its not worth the risk

its like woah these visuals are like the same as L just a tiny different. lets do it! who cares if we OD?

RCs are too unpredictable for me


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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: koods]
    #21545670 - 04/14/15 09:45 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

setb said:
Don't listen to sheekle, he's a troll. Just be careful with your dosing.




Bullshit. Sheekle knows his psychedelics.

I don't believe OP has access to the ODD forum and this thread: 25I-, 25B- & 25C-NBOMe Incidents & Fatalities: 2014 Year-in-Review

We don't have a thread like this for any other type of drug. What you can't see because you haven't been here long enough, is page after page of reports of NBOME related incidents last year. I'll quote the first post.

Quote:

Ped said:
2014 saw a marked increase in the documentation of NBOMe-related clinical incidents.  The year has shown us that the NBOMe series comes with substantial dangers, and these dangers are made all the more disturbing by the apparent surging popularity of these compounds. The NBOMe series has been associated with the catastrophic breakdown of muscle tissue emergent from a severe metabolic disruption, resulting in rhabdomyolysis and its related multi-organ failure.  This outcome may or may not be connected to serotonin syndrome and/or hyperthermia.  Individuals taking other psychiatric medications with serotonergic effects may be at an elevated risk of complication and fatality.

Below are links to four separate papers outlining nine toxicological hospitalizations, one toxicological fatality, and one likely-neuropsychiatric fatality, all published within the past 3 to 18 months.  Emergent from these papers is a clear message: the NBOMe series is not to be trifled with.  Individuals with prior psychiatric disturbances should avoid this series altogether, while those who choose to experiment are advised to do so sparingly, applying extra care toward precision dosing, and proceeding under the supervision of a trusted, non-intoxicated sitter.


Fatal Outcome Of Status Epilepticus, Hyperthermia, Rhabdomyolysis, Multi-Organ Failure, And Cerebral Edema After 25I-NBOMe Ingestion

We report a case of a 17 year old girl who was taking lithium & topiramate for mood disorders who died following a 251-NBOMe ingestion, portraying the lethality of this drug admixture. She presented in status epilepticus shortly after ingesting an unknown substance on a blotter paper at a music concert. She then acutely developed hyperthermia, metabolic acidosis, rhabdomyolysis, elevated transaminases, acute kidney injury, hypokalemia and hypocalcemia. Subsequently, she developed irreversible cerebral edema and was declared brain dead on hospital day #7.

We suggest that the patient died due to acute 25I-NBOMe ingestion in combination with lithium even though the antemortem lithium concentration was 0.34mmol/L (therapeutic range 0.6 - 1.2mmol/L). This case describes a fatal serotonin syndrome caused by ingestion of 25I-NBOMe concomitantly with lithium which also has serotonergic effects.


Two cases of severe intoxication associated with analytically confirmed use of the novel psychoactive substances 25B-NBOMe and 25C-NBOMe

Two male patients (17 and 31 years of age) had ingested drugs labelled as 'NBOMe' or 'Holland film' and developed confusion, agitation, hypertension, tachycardia, hyperthermia, sweating and dilated pupils. Other features included convulsion, rhabdomyolysis and deranged liver function.


Severe clinical toxicity associated with analytically confirmed recreational use of 25I-NBOMe: case series

Seven patients, all young adult males, presented to hospitals in the northeast of England with clinical toxicity after recreational drug use in January 2013. Clinical features included tachycardia (n = 7), hypertension (4), agitation (6), aggression, visual and auditory hallucinations (6), seizures (3), hyperpyrexia (3), clonus (2), elevated white cell count (2), elevated creatine kinase (7), metabolic acidosis (3), and acute kidney injury (1). LC-MS/MS analysis identified 25I-NBOMe as the main active substance in the plasma of all seven cases.


Postmortem detection of 25I-NBOMe in fluids and tissues determined by high performance liquid chromatography with tandem mass spectrometry from a traumatic death

The decedent was a healthy 19-year-old man with no prior history of alcohol, tobacco or drug abuse. The decedent was reportedly “trip-sitting” for his friends who were using “acid” on the evening of his death. “Trip sitting” refers to someone who remains drug free for the purpose of monitoring the safety of those under the influence of a drug. At some point that evening, the decedent either knowingly or unknowingly ingested blotter paper infused with “acid”. Subsequently, the friends noticed that the decedent began to display strange and paranoid behavior, and they all agreed it would be a good idea to leave their gathering place and go for a walk. Reportedly, the decedent’s behavior became increasingly more bizarre and he abruptly walked away from his friends. His apparent bizarre behavior may be related to the fact this was the first time he had ingested a hallucinogenic drug. He was normally the trip sitter. The other individuals that took the same drug that night did not display similar side-effects but all of them had used the drug in the past. The friends went to his apartment in search of him, and found him prone and unresponsive on the pavement near the apartment complex swimming pool. 911 was activated, and shortly thereafter he was pronounced dead at the scene. According to police and paramedics, the decedent apparently had either jumped or had fallen accidentally from his apartment balcony, which was located multiple stories above the pool deck. Upon questioning, the friends informed police that the decedent had not been behaving normally that evening.







that's funny because one is a case of mixing psych meds with NBOMe (and anyone who knows anything know's that you're not supposed to do that with almost any drug) the second is a classic overdose case and the third is circumstantial

it's clear that this is part of a slander campaign, and as much as you want to assume I'm not educated on the matter you can rest assured that I won't eat propaganda up.

this might as well be a DARE campaign

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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: murdok]
    #21545695 - 04/14/15 09:55 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I promise you dude, the people that post in the ODD are not a part of DARE and are not out to slander any one specific drug. Seriously, people talk about taking everything from meth, heroin, benzo's, and every other RC you can name. I have been a member of the Shroomery for close to 10 years now, and this is the definitive place to get real advice, opinions, and information about drugs.

There are obvious trolls in this thread, but the post you quoted is not that. Take the anecdotes with a grain of salt.

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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: 1234go] * 1
    #21545702 - 04/14/15 09:58 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Yes bassfresk means well.
He only seems rash because he's just been ragin so fuckin hard all his life.
He doesn't have a low setting. It's not his fault, he's just tough as fuck.





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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21545766 - 04/14/15 10:29 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

i'm like 90% sure OP is young enough that he feels invcincible, and doesn't realize how precious and fragile a brain is yet.

DARE talking shit about weed isn't at all comparable to talking shit about drugs that haven't been studied for safety, coming from labs that confirmed leave unsafe byproducts in their drugs, and occasionally mislabel shit.

we can be 100% sure you're not educated on the matter, because no one is.  If you think otherwise you're fooling yourself, as young reckless people do.


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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: teamkiller]
    #21545778 - 04/14/15 10:32 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

its not that he feels invincible. its moreso that he sells NBOMEs as L so like theres really no health risk for himself


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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21545783 - 04/14/15 10:34 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

did he admit to that? i really don't like that sort of thing.


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Re: 100 hits of 25b [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21545791 - 04/14/15 10:36 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Bassfreak said:
Quote:

1234go said:
Yes bassfresk means well.
He only seems rash because he's just been ragin so fuckin hard all his life.
He doesn't have a low setting. It's not his fault, he's just tough as fuck.





:highfive:



If by raging you mean drinks breast milk then yeah maybe


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