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DMTme

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Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT
#21534979 - 04/11/15 09:09 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey,
Anyone who has seen my posts over the last week will know I was doing / did an extraction. It's in the freezer now and I can already seen I have been successful.
I wanted to wait and see if I was successful before figuring out how to take it, and in a previous thread it sounded like a dab rig would be the best for me (for a few different reasons).
I was planning on making my own dab rig (after watching a lot of videos and looking at pics), which I would have been able to do as I am extremely good with crafting things (out of all kinds of materials). I saw a ghetto dab rig on youtube and a guy impovised with a steel bolt (with an allen key hole), however after reading of a guy coughing up blood (after using cheap steel), it would seem stupid not to use a legit nail.
Buying a dab rig:
I don't own a bong (been 10 years since I smoked weed), but still remember how to make them. I could buy a cheap one however I recently discovered that it has become illegal to buy them anywhere in my state (which includes all dab rig components). Someone here linked me an australian site that can ship to me, however searching "dab rig" only brings up 2 results (both of which are ridiculously expensive). Searching more on the site I can see they sell many nails (some very cheap), and I need to know the official names of the individual components (other than the nail obviously). So I can find/order them individually (I'm poor). **Would also like an idea of how compatible they are likely to be with each other.
Need DMT in me quickly:
The extraction process was far more stressful and time consuming than I thought it would be. I also went off my anti-depressants a few days back (to get them out of my system), which obviously isn't helping. With the wait time for getting the dab stuff shipped to me, I am almost certainly going to want a way to smoke it in the mean time. - I was reluctant to do this because I'm not sure if it could trigger asthma in me. What would be the least harsh way of doing this? In a joint with some kind of legal herbs? Slowly doing a cone in a home-made bong?
Advice appreciated. Happy to read any links provided.
Thanks.
PS: 1) Sorry about the post length (I type at 100wpm and can get carried away). 2) I'm going to bed now and will read all replies when I wake.
Edited by DMTme (04/11/15 09:13 PM)
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Re: 2) Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: DMTme]
#21535019 - 04/11/15 09:19 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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It really depends on how much you have whether or not to wait until your parts come. I've personally never tried it out of dab rig because mine broke just before I got my hands on some deems. To answer some of your questions: A dab rig is known by many names, mostly concentrate supplies, on websites look for things like concentration accessories, it's very easy to find cheap glass bongs, if you don't care much about quality I would check out dhgate.com, I've bought from a few different sellers and been mostly disappointed by the quality but for someone who just wants a nice little thing to rip some spice they're perfect. http://www.dhgate.com/product/new-glass-bong-water-pipe-with-double-filter/210447269.html#s1-11-7|3362609298 I bought this, from a glass vendor (gotta dig around a little) and it honestly was perfect for spice, it has the parts to become a dab rig, and when smoked, it has almost no flavor or harshness for me, however I smoke a lot out of it normally. The honeycomb percs really make a nice difference, I'd say you want something with a bit of percolation or diffusion, but it doesn't matter much.
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Re: Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: DMTme]
#21535021 - 04/11/15 09:20 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Search "domeless nail". Should find some results. I recommend getting a quartz type, very high melting point.
U will need at least a plastic bottle with a large mouthpiece (your homemade bong), glass downstem fit for the domeless nail (to put inside the plastic bottle) and of course the domeless nail.
also, get a nice microtorch.
If u need more help, let me know.
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Re: Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21535038 - 04/11/15 09:27 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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^^^^^^
Also, I've found that mixing DMT into a joint caused the joint to run and go out and hit like shit as the crystals melted. But DMT mixed in a blunt seemed to work might fine. Just don't spread it throughout the whole thing, try to concentrate it so you get the hits a few puffs after lighting it.
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Re: Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21536552 - 04/12/15 09:37 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the replies guys (and offer for further help).
Seemed a little obnoxious to push this thread up by saying thanks, but I AM grateful for the help.
I'm going to order the nail and downstem now and will test out a herb-blunt in the meantime. - First without and then with DMT included.
Edited by DMTme (04/12/15 09:41 AM)
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Re: Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: DMTme]
#21536594 - 04/12/15 09:45 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Get a domeless quartz banger off ebay for your rig.
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Re: Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: DurgaDurg]
#21537021 - 04/12/15 11:52 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have figured out everything below now.
My final question is: Should I definitely get a domeless nail? If I buy a domed version it's going to work out a little cheaper (as I won't have to buy a male to male adapter).
Hey again,
So I'm looking at this domeless nail: http://www.ozbongs.com.au/DhOP-Quartz-Domeless-Nail-14mm/ I can't figure out how to find stem that will fit with it though.
Whilst the nail itself has dimension (in millimeters), none of the stems on the site have any mm widths listed. There ARE quite a few stems made by the same brand as that nail (on the site), but again no widths and they honestly don't look like they would even fit in the nail. - Which has a female joint.
There are kits with domes (including everything but the stem), but even then the adapters have mm widths (and the stems don't).
What have I missed??
EDIT: Ok from what I gather that nail would need a male to male adapter. Also can you confirm that the "14" listed in this stem is going to be the MM width? http://www.ozbongs.com.au/DhOP-14-14-21-Hole-Diffuser-Stem-11.5cm/
Edited by DMTme (04/12/15 12:28 PM)
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Re: Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: DMTme]
#21537446 - 04/12/15 01:47 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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sO you need a 14mm MALE downstem.
So your domeless nail will fit Over the male downstem (opposite of typical stems where the bowl is the male that goes into the female downstem).
Also, if u wanna make it simple, get the plastic bong in the "Customers who bought this also bought...." section on the bottom of the page.
I prefer to invest in glass everything, but if u are on a budget, then plastic works.
EDIT: domeless nails are more suited for DMT cause u "drop" the DMT directly on the nail.
Edited by LogicaL Chaos (04/12/15 02:01 PM)
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Re: Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21537509 - 04/12/15 02:03 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I believe that plastics acrylic logical. Plastic would suck!
So OP, dome or domeless, either way works fine. Unless you have troubles getting dmt in your dome for some reason. You are going to have to either buy a little 20-40 dollar kit, that transforms your normal piece to a rig (female to male glass on glass connection), or just buy a piece with a male connection on top already. I got a bubbler once with slits in the downstem, that's still not broken, for 35 dollars. With an 18mm male GOG connection. I was tired of breaking pieces, so I decided to go cheap. Then you need either a dome and nail, or domeless nail. I recommend you go Ti, or maybe quartz. Then you will need a dabber (anything stainless steel, ti, glass, or ceramic works) It's just a little stick that gets your concentrate to the nail, for dmt, you may need a special technique or dabber.
Lastly, you need a blow torch. If you're going cheap, propane torches like most rednecks have in their garage, works fine.
Edit: btw, what state do you live in? That's garbage! So do you know if you're allowed to posses a bong? What about receive it in the mail, or get one from accross state lines and bring it back? That's crazy they can ban them, since they are not for cannabis usage. Can you buy papers, grinders, or anything in your state?
Edited by bigbitch (04/12/15 02:07 PM)
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Re: Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: DMTme] 1
#21537561 - 04/12/15 02:16 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm going to get an 18mm domeless and this 45' adapter/tube. http://www.ozbongs.com.au/DhOP-Glass-Dome-Adapter-Smooth-Bend-18mm/
I realized I already have something I can use as a downpipe (made from metal), and can easily attach it using my crafting skills (along with making the rest of the bong). - Will make a large base so it's definitely stable also. For the dab stick I intend on using a satay stick and making a very small scoop out of foil (to attach to the end). - Should work fine.
Separately: I'm very excited to see how much I ended up with but am having some trouble with some largish clumps that keep re-melting. Worse case scenario it looks like I will end up with at least a gram though
Edited by DMTme (04/12/15 02:19 PM)
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Re: Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: bigbitch]
#21537611 - 04/12/15 02:25 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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bigbitch said: Edit: btw, what state do you live in? That's garbage! So do you know if you're allowed to posses a bong? What about receive it in the mail, or get one from accross state lines and bring it back? That's crazy they can ban them, since they are not for cannabis usage. Can you buy papers, grinders, or anything in your state?
Victoria (australia). The guy at the smoke store said you can still own/import them (just illegal to sell them). You can still get papers and very small glass pipes. Not sure about grinder..
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Re: Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: DMTme]
#21537762 - 04/12/15 02:52 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Another thing you can do is make enhanced leaf. I found enhanced leaf to be a very effective way of dosing DMT. I'd start with 250mg of DMT and 250mg of a base herb such as damiana.
Put the dmt in a small dish along an inside edge. Use a small dropper to drop ISO onto the DMT until there is just enough liquid to dissolve it, and then add the herb to the liquid. It should suck up all the ISO. Then just let it dry and you have 500 mg enhanced leaf at 1:1 ratio. So 100 mg of leaf should be a 50mg blast off. Try to smoke it all in one hit and hold it in. Zoom zoom.
A bong works great for smoking it all in one hit, but a normal pipe/chillum would be sufficient. This method might be easier if you are getting a gooey product from ACRB (usually the result of not defatting).
This method also results in a more proper heating where the DMT is actually vaporized rather than burnt. There is a learning curve with proper vaporization of DMT and the enhanced leaf simplifies it.
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Re: Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
#21537807 - 04/12/15 03:03 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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That process you described makes sense however can you tell me what "ISO" is?
Btw I did do a defat and at least 1 gram was/is already stable in crystal form. I didn't scrape it yet though because I wanted to get the clumps.
Last time the clumps melted I spread them out on the dish (using a satay stick), and it does look like they have re-crystalized without clumping now (just checked). From what I read the crystal clumps were probably trapping in naptha (which was re-melting it).
Edited by DMTme (04/12/15 03:05 PM)
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Re: Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: DMTme]
#21537958 - 04/12/15 03:35 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Isopropyl alcohol. Just make sure it is 91-99% so it evaps clean.
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Re: Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: DMTme]
#21538077 - 04/12/15 03:53 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks. Will investigate more when shops open shortly.
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Re: Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: DMTme]
#21538328 - 04/12/15 04:47 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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DMTme said:
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bigbitch said: Edit: btw, what state do you live in? That's garbage! So do you know if you're allowed to posses a bong? What about receive it in the mail, or get one from accross state lines and bring it back? That's crazy they can ban them, since they are not for cannabis usage. Can you buy papers, grinders, or anything in your state?
Victoria (australia). The guy at the smoke store said you can still own/import them (just illegal to sell them). You can still get papers and very small glass pipes. Not sure about grinder..
Ohh that's not too bad. I'm naive and immediately thought USA, when you said states. Atleast you can own, and import them. I'm slightly worried about your dabstick. Foil is not the best to get super warm. Even though drug addicts smoke off of it all the time. If you can somehow drop your dmt off of it, onto your nail, then it might not get hot. The dmt could melt and stick to your dabber though, as it gets close to the hot nail. Maybe you have a stainless steel kitchen or hardware utensil. You can maybe even stick the dmt to it, if you have some resin, hashoil, or anything sticky and smokable. That adapter looks great. I can't believe you're going to put it on a homemade bong though. Atleast your hottest parts will be proper, please use a nail made for smoking. If I were you I'd try my best to use my creativity, and maybe start selling homemade bongs, and buy a bottom of the line glass bubbler, already with the male end. Instead of the adapter. You could probably have it for double the price or so. I understand if that's not obtainable.
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Re: Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: bigbitch]
#21541441 - 04/13/15 11:59 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey, I didn't end up ordering off that site because the customer service was very bad (I contacted them). I found another website that has cheaper stuff however it doesn't say (on the following page), whether the nails are domeless or not. A couple of them look domeless (from what I have seen) but I can't be sure.
Can anyone let me know if/which of these are domeless? http://www.onlinesmoke.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=nail
Thanks.
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Re: Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: DMTme]
#21541614 - 04/13/15 12:39 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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quartz nail 1 and 2 are def domeless. I think all of the quartz nails are though. infiniti nails def domeless, I think ti oil nail 02 is domeless as well. Their pic from the top is confusing, but black leaf does make a domeless ti nail with the holes like that and it's called t2 or ti2 or something. I think that is what it is.
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Re: Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: bigbitch]
#21543129 - 04/13/15 06:05 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree , quartz 001 and 002 are domeless.
Go for those.
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Re: Questions about basic dab rig components, and also easiest / fastest way to smoke DMT [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21543145 - 04/13/15 06:10 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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bigbitch said: quartz nail 1 and 2 are def domeless. I think all of the quartz nails are though. infiniti nails def domeless, I think ti oil nail 02 is domeless as well. Their pic from the top is confusing, but black leaf does make a domeless ti nail with the holes like that and it's called t2 or ti2 or something. I think that is what it is.
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LogicaL Chaos said: I agree , quartz 001 and 002 are domeless.
Go for those.
Yep. I'm grabbing 001 shortly.
Thanks guys.
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