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    #2153470 - 12/03/03 12:27 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Id hate to give credit to the wrong guy, but I believe it was Swami (correct me if I'm wrong, seriously) who came up with this term.

He used it to respresent useless arguing and debating....that which leads no where, the argument with no outcome.

If you think of it however, almost all conversation and talking done is "MM".

Truth will never, ever, ever come from words. Words can be used as a bridge , between giver and reciever - to connect ideas and concepts...but no words will ever enlighten a person, not words alone anyway.



People who spend their lives searching for Truth, are very similiar to the USA invading Iraq. Instead of spending their time and effort where it needs to be spent, they look elsewhere for satisfaction, etc.

People - truth comes from within. Not from a message board, not from a book, not from ANY INTELLECTUAL realizaiton. Truth isn't a concept. It can't be.

Truth is a state of being...a state of compassion...a state of understanding.


but anyway, the point of this post is to remind everyone that Truth is already in you, and around you. Truth is everything thats happening, truth is the Present moment. Just because you cant see it, doesnt mean its not there. :smile:

Just a friendly reminder, maybe you guys can use this thread to take a break from your mental masturbation and relax


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Re: mental masturbation [Re: tekramrepus]
    #2153503 - 12/03/03 12:39 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

technically, it's not mental masturbation when there are others participating. yep, S&P is more like a big, happy circle jerk :wink:

 


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Re: mental masturbation [Re: infidelGOD]
    #2153511 - 12/03/03 12:42 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I am mentally ill and masterbate.


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Re: mental masturbation [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #2153557 - 12/03/03 01:02 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

supermarket: Truth is a state of being...a state of compassion


why is it a state of compassion? what does compassion have to do with truth? nothing! nothing! dont try to enforce your subjective opinion on universal truth, you cheapen the idea by opinionating it.


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Re: mental masturbation [Re: Positronius]
    #2153806 - 12/03/03 02:28 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

^hes right...stating that truth is "compassion" doesnt really snap tightly with what your were trying to articulate...The truth simply 'is'. Nothing more, nothing less.

but in a deep, philosophical pondering level, i believe you. I think part, if not all, of the universal truth rests in a concept many have deemed, "God's eternal, unconditional love". (I dont believe in god; at least not the orthodox version of it.)

Universal Truth...wow. What a tricky concept. Afterall, it does define EVERYTHING

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Re: mental masturbation [Re: PeyoteZen]
    #2154137 - 12/03/03 06:10 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Don't think swami came up with it, maybe it was an independent invention but I've heard that term long before I ever came to Shroomery.


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Re: mental masturbation [Re: tekramrepus]
    #2154155 - 12/03/03 06:43 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Truth is arrived at ( percieved) thru contemplation
and in contemplation one is other than the truth percieved.
A partnership then exists between truth and perception.
Perception percieves truth as other than self.

I don't think Truth can exist by itself without being percieved to Be.

Love then could be a state of reciprocity.


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Re: mental masturbation [Re: castaway]
    #2154165 - 12/03/03 06:52 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

i think, that if there is universal truth, then it would have to be applicable to all forms of life. No matter how fabulous love is, it is not a state of being universal to all life-forms, and is thus not a universal truth.

universe

university

uni-cycle



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Re: mental masturbation [Re: Positronius]
    #2154193 - 12/03/03 07:19 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Positronius said:
i think, that if there is universal truth, then it would have to be applicable to all forms of life. No matter how fabulous love is, it is not a state of being universal to all life-forms, and is thus not a universal truth.
 




Perhaps it IS a state of being for all life forms? :grin:
Peace.


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Re: mental masturbation [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2154195 - 12/03/03 07:22 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I dont see too much love in the eyes of a wolverine. Its an animal, it has priorities, the ruthless murder of a deer is inconsiquental in his eyes. Is there love in this situation?


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Re: mental masturbation [Re: Positronius]
    #2154198 - 12/03/03 07:24 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Positronius said:
I dont see too much love in the eyes of a wolverine. Its animal, it has priorities, the ruthless murder of a deer is inconsiquental in his eyes. Is there love in this situation?




Perhaps there is love there, they are just unaware of it, incapable of understanding something such as love?

I'm not talking about like experiencing love all the time, every single thing being motivated and concerned with our take on love. I'm just saying that it is possible that all of this energy that IS this Creation does take on such a depth, such an orientation. *shrugs*
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For I've never known completeness
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Re: mental masturbation [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2155598 - 12/03/03 04:40 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

i think when people become "enlightened" or "understand" the universe...it is actually their realization that one cannot understand the universe, because in a LARGER sense, there is nothing to understand....sorry, if you dont understand what i am saying.
I hardly undestand what i am saying...

(ever get so deep into pondering existence that you get the feeling like you are looking at yourself, and yourself is looking at you at the same time?...its weird, i cant explain it very well)

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Re: mental masturbation [Re: PeyoteZen]
    #2156236 - 12/03/03 08:17 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I understand. The depths of pondering often lead one down a path of self-discovery, what is to be discovered...your self! it is this self by which we understand what is to be understood, all that is and all that is not. Life is the reflection of expression, the perception of nothingness.


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Re: mental masturbation [Re: tekramrepus]
    #2156861 - 12/03/03 11:52 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

The term mental madturbation has been in sond lyrics for some time. Funcadelic used it in a 1974 album, but Sammy said it best in There's Only One Way To Rock:
"So many things can get you high
I'm gonna try em all just once before I die
And you can analyze this situation
To me it's all just mental masturbation"



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