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    #21525828 - 04/09/15 07:43 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

So I recently bough empty capsules and loader machine and made a bunch of shroom capsules. Maybe it's just me but the effects don't seem as strong as just eating them straight up. Anyone else tried this and how do you rate the pills vs eating straight up

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Re: Mushie pills [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21525855 - 04/09/15 07:49 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Used 00 pills and it took four capsules to make a gram...make sure you way your powder first before you fill them not After
I changed to soaking them in every clear straining them and then just drinking Everclear no body load and comes on in like five minutes without all the mushy crap

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Re: Mushie pills [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21525886 - 04/09/15 07:53 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I just read a few things about encapsulation today and am intersted in this question, as well. I wouldn't think it would have any negative effects as far as absorption goes, but I really have no idea. This is probably a silly question, but did you eat/drink anything immediately prior to dosing, PinPornProducer?

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Re: Mushie pills [Re: el8tch]
    #21525910 - 04/09/15 07:58 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Thats how I almost always do it these days. I have OCD about this stuff, so I have a milligram scale, and I use the pill fill machine, press, fill, press, fill, then when they are completely filled (I do use 00), I weigh them and manually add or subtract to bring the total weight to between .613g-.620g (the caupsul empty weighs 113-120 miligrams).

That way I have exactly 1/2 gram pills.

They work just as well as any other method. Eat on an empty stomach and drink orange juice after.

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Re: Mushie pills [Re: el8tch]
    #21525916 - 04/09/15 07:59 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

No, if I know I'm gonna trip I fast all day, I did drink some dew with the pills. I just wonder if they just all don't open up or dissolve at the same time or something. Because when I just eat em the effects are almost twice as strong :shrug:

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Re: Mushie pills [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21525927 - 04/09/15 08:00 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I use 00 size capsules and a mg scale and get about 5.5-6mg per capsule

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Re: Mushie pills [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21527179 - 04/10/15 02:15 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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So I recently bough empty capsules and loader machine and made a bunch of shroom capsules. Maybe it's just me but the effects don't seem as strong as just eating them straight up. Anyone else tried this and how do you rate the pills vs eating straight up




Probably because by the time all capsules have dissolved and released the mushrooms, the tolerance kicks in. Also, shrooms require stomach acids to convert psilocybin into psilocin. If you drop capsules, they use up some of the stomach acids and there are not enough of them to convert shroomocibin properly, I guess  :shrug:


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Re: Mushie pills [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21527423 - 04/10/15 05:22 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

It becomes time release in a way


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Re: Mushie pills [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #21527428 - 04/10/15 05:32 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

The capsules suck. I've made them a few times and end up chucking them up once they start to dissolve.  I just straight up eat  or lemon tek em.


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Re: Mushie pills [Re: T-Funkadelic]
    #21527485 - 04/10/15 06:11 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah the one time I used capsules for a group, no one got high. Most of us experience a bit of nausea from eating and lemon tek'ing, so we thought we'd try the capsule method.  We were all really disappointed and resolved to never do it that way again...we'd rather just deal with the sickness.  Maybe a lot of the active compounds are absorbed on the way down when there's no barrier between the shrooms and yer insides.

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Re: Mushie pills [Re: unfortunategent]
    #21527534 - 04/10/15 06:38 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

ive seen the same thing OP, the effects are drastically diminished and imo it's because when you grind them up you're exposing them literally every single possible millimeter of it oxygen

then you press it into the capsule itself and seal it, which has oxygen in it as well

some of the strongest shrooms i ever had was a guy that did this method, but every time i've done it its just completely sucked

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Re: Mushie pills [Re: cube talk]
    #21527569 - 04/10/15 06:56 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I used to know some folks who would extract psilocin/psilocybin from stropharia cubensis, the tryptamine compounds were then mixed with binders and fillers and pressed into "psilly-pills", each pill had around 25mg psilocin/psilocybin present....

They were amazing.....

I have not seen psilly-pills for a good while, I miss them, I love psilocin, but hate that feeling like I'm a frog with a stomach full of swamp water that comes with eating the fungus itself.....

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Re: Mushie pills [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21527574 - 04/10/15 06:59 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Stropharia? I haven't heard it called that in a looooooong time!

EDIT: I just read your username... Now it all makes sense! Another fan of ol' Terry, I see!

Edited by el8tch (04/10/15 07:10 AM)

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Re: Mushie pills [Re: el8tch]
    #21527814 - 04/10/15 08:47 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

My girl can't stomach eating em straight up, would it be better to make the pills when your ready to dose right away?

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Re: Mushie pills [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21527833 - 04/10/15 08:53 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I think the capsule itself has something to do with it... Gotta do it with a pollen press (kief coin press) then its 100% mushrooms and it starts expanding back out in your stomach immediately. The increased surface area for breakdown/absorption def helps. I've been rocked sooooooo hard from them


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Re: Mushie pills [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #21529193 - 04/10/15 03:57 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I suggest slicing the pills with a razor blade before ingesting them, as the gel capsules take atleast 20-30 minutes to dissolve in the stomach. The cuts will help release the shrooms within the capsule a lot quicker..


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Re: Mushie pills [Re: Blazer420]
    #21530254 - 04/10/15 08:15 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I personally love using capsules. They are easy to dose, transport, and conceal. The doses are fairly homogeneous in potency. Tightly packed and properly stored they have a very impressive shelf-life.
AND they bypass having to taste the mushrooms.

But I realize they do have some drawbacks. It can take some serious time for the gelatin in the capsules to dissolve. My special lady friend has a slower metabolism than I do, so when we dose capsules together I am sometimes peaking a full hour before she is barely beginning to feel the effects. Also, if I have too much food in my belly it can take up to an hour and a half before they start to kick in.

I haven't had much of an issue with not tripping hard enough, except for the couple of times that I didn't take the entire dose within a reasonably short window of time, and instead spread the dose out over 45 minutes or so.

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I suggest slicing the pills with a razor blade before ingesting them, as the gel capsules take at least 20-30 minutes to dissolve in the stomach. The cuts will help release the shrooms within the capsule a lot quicker..




^This works.
When I am worried about having to wait around too long for them to kick in I'll slice the ends of the capsules with my pocket knife before I eat them. When I do that I usually start to feel the effects in around 20 minutes.


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Re: Mushie pills [Re: el8tch]
    #21531588 - 04/11/15 03:25 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Stropharia? I haven't heard it called that in a looooooong time!

EDIT: I just read your username... Now it all makes sense! Another fan of ol' Terry, I see!




For whatever reason I prefer the "stropharia" nomenclature over "psilocybe", I'm sure Terry did have some influence on this (when I was a youth I obtained the ON Oeric + OT Oss grow guide (which were the mckennas psuedonyms) I learned to grow from the book, and I guess the nomenclature stuck with me....)

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