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Food Grade LSA Extract? * 1
    #21526708 - 04/09/15 11:19 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Hey I was just wondering if there was a food grade LSA extract that is easy to do at home. This includes teas, lemon teks, what ever is a simple and safe way to ingest LSA without the nausea and vasoconstriction. Also can LSA get as deep as mushrooms? I've heard that it is a teacher of its own is this true?


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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21526855 - 04/10/15 12:16 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I've done a CWE and had a "trip". I never got the intensity of shrooms though. It was slight visuals. I'd let Logical chime in, he is more experienced with LSA.

For food grade I'd suggest doing a CWE and downing the tea, you'll get slight nausea but no where near eating the seeds alone.


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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: Achillita]
    #21527165 - 04/10/15 02:11 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I have read of an ethanol extraction tek. Apparently you need to soak the seeds in ethanol for several weeks in order to extract all LSA correctly.

Yesterday I made the bad decision to dring the remaining half a bottle of ethanol wit a friend. Now I have no thing left for the extractions, all I have left is this slight annoying hangover and sore throat from too many ice cubes.
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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21528066 - 04/10/15 10:13 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Hey I was just wondering if there was a food grade LSA extract that is easy to do at home. This includes teas, lemon teks, what ever is a simple and safe way to ingest LSA without the nausea and vasoconstriction. Also can LSA get as deep as mushrooms? I've heard that it is a teacher of its own is this true?




pretty sure vasoconstriction is caused by lsa itself so if you want a trip without vasoconstriction don't do lsa


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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: LiquidVisions] * 1
    #21528257 - 04/10/15 11:03 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

If u want the LEAST amount of stomach sickness, u have to do a methanol extraction.

ethanol sucks for extracting, dont bother.

But u  could do a ULTRA cold water extraction. Da2ra said it might be the trick to remove impurities if u use near-freezing water.

Havent tried the super-chilled water yet, but doing a methanol extraction on fresh seeds I highly recommend!!!


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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21530486 - 04/10/15 09:08 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Do you adjust your dosage for a methanol extraction?


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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: healing]
    #21530547 - 04/10/15 09:17 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

No, because i like pleasant surprizes :datass:

if u want a solid, vibrant-color psychedelic LSA trip, 7.5 fresh grams of MG seeds is the minimal.

If u want a full-on, serious trip, do 9 fresh grams and up.

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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21530605 - 04/10/15 09:30 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I've done quite a bit of LSA. I used to grind up the seeds and eat them.

I'm just wondering if one should increase their dosage to achieve the same effects as just eating them all ground up.


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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: healing]
    #21530621 - 04/10/15 09:34 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

No, cause its a near 100% Extract.

What kinds of doses do u take?

I used to encapsule up to 150 seeds. The stomach was AWFUL.

Then i upgraded to methanol extracts, never turned back...

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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21531208 - 04/10/15 11:54 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

It's my favorite psychedelic with which to experience ego death. I liked it in doses of 600 seeds and up.


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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21531220 - 04/10/15 11:57 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

TL;DR

But a food grade LAA extract is a CWE :lol:


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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: Shroomin Capote]
    #21534323 - 04/11/15 06:07 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I see, then i guess i'll stick to shrooms and acid because vasoconstriction sucksss.


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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21534337 - 04/11/15 06:10 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Lol never giving up on that methanol extraction. I trust you when you say that it's the best way to go but right now chemicals aren't an option for me. I wish I can make some pure LSA but my living situation would not allow me to do such a thing. :/


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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21534815 - 04/11/15 08:16 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Theres still the ultra-chilled cold water extraction left.

If u want to experiment with that, turn your fridge temp to right below its coldest setting. Place a light-proof water bottle filled with filtered water, about 16 oz. Wait 24 hours as the water chills.

Then, in the dark, in very dim light, count or weigh your seeds for the trip u want, then grind your seeds up, dump them into your light-proof water bottle, then seal it.

Gentle shake the seed mixture, place in fridge. Mix several times a day for 2-3 days.

Then, back in the dark room with dim light, filter the super-chilled water thru a jar with coffee filters. After it filters, drink the water, maybe add Tang or Koolaid for taste.

Bingo, a potentially clean stealth extract in as little as 3 days.



I have yet to try it, but hopefully will soon during spring seed season :smile:

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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21535334 - 04/11/15 11:00 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Theres still the ultra-chilled cold water extraction left.

If u want to experiment with that, turn your fridge temp to right below its coldest setting. Place a light-proof water bottle filled with filtered water, about 16 oz. Wait 24 hours as the water chills.

Then, in the dark, in very dim light, count or weigh your seeds for the trip u want, then grind your seeds up, dump them into your light-proof water bottle, then seal it.

Gentle shake the seed mixture, place in fridge. Mix several times a day for 2-3 days.

Then, back in the dark room with dim light, filter the super-chilled water thru a jar with coffee filters. After it filters, drink the water, maybe add Tang or Koolaid for taste.

Bingo, a potentially clean stealth extract in as little as 3 days.



I have yet to try it, but hopefully will soon during spring seed season :smile:



I'd suggest trying that. LSA never really gave me that much vasoconstriction other than feeling kinda cold in my toes. It did give me nausea, but thats because I downed the seeds by themselves.


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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21536060 - 04/12/15 06:49 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Theres still the ultra-chilled cold water extraction left.

If u want to experiment with that, turn your fridge temp to right below its coldest setting. Place a light-proof water bottle filled with filtered water, about 16 oz. Wait 24 hours as the water chills.

Then, in the dark, in very dim light, count or weigh your seeds for the trip u want, then grind your seeds up, dump them into your light-proof water bottle, then seal it.

Gentle shake the seed mixture, place in fridge. Mix several times a day for 2-3 days.

Then, back in the dark room with dim light, filter the super-chilled water thru a jar with coffee filters. After it filters, drink the water, maybe add Tang or Koolaid for taste.

Bingo, a potentially clean stealth extract in as little as 3 days.



I have yet to try it, but hopefully will soon during spring seed season :smile:




Hey LogicaL

I'm gonna try this method with HWBR seeds. Thanks for posting :biggrin:

I have couple of questions though:

1. Do you really think the LSA will take upwards of 2 days to fully extract?

2. Do you find that "removing the fuzzy outer coating" off HWBR seeds actually reduces nausea?

3. After the filtering stage has been done is it okay for the filtered LSA water to come to room temperature? I mean the LSA won't be degraded by exposure to room temperature if its in the dark with the lid on right?

4. What did you mean by "filtered water" when you said "Place a light-proof water bottle filled with filtered water, about 16 oz"

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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: zoom_zoom_shroom]
    #21537537 - 04/12/15 02:11 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

1. Well, Da2ra, a LSA expert here (he calls it Ergine), said it would take a week. I dont think it will take this long.

2. Yes, removing the fuzzy coating definitely helps Reduce sickness.

3. Yes, its ok, but its better to ingest ASAP to prevent potency loss. Likely doesnt make a difference, but i like to play it safe With drinking it "fresh".

4. By "filtered water", i mean "not tap water". Tap water contains chlorine and is very bad for LSA (same as with LSD, no tap water!)

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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #21540331 - 04/13/15 03:21 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Awesome thanks again :sunny:

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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #21540735 - 04/13/15 08:31 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Just chill the distilled water in a glass jar first in the freezer with some lemon juice. Add the powdered seeds, with some peppermint to balance out the lemon and nuttiness of the seeds. Give it a shake every now and then. It will start to freeze over, then put it in the fridge. In my experience, a properly chilled CWE using distilled water and lemon juice takes only a few hours. Half a day at most.

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Re: Food Grade LSA Extract? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21545234 - 04/14/15 06:56 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Just chill the distilled water in a glass jar first in the freezer with some lemon juice. Add the powdered seeds, with some peppermint to balance out the lemon and nuttiness of the seeds. Give it a shake every now and then. It will start to freeze over, then put it in the fridge. In my experience, a properly chilled CWE using distilled water and lemon juice takes only a few hours. Half a day at most.





Why CWE and not warm/hot? Seems many different extractions including mushrooms use hot water to better release the goods?


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