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Re: Student banned for displaying a noose [Re: koods] 1
#21502435 - 04/04/15 01:10 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why should anyone get banned from college for being a nonviolent racist?
Next thing you know koods will be preaching how racism is solved through education.
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Re: Student banned for displaying a noose [Re: Webster10] 1
#21502484 - 04/04/15 01:30 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't know if you've noticed, but universities get to choose who gets to attend their institution. I guess they didn't want racists in their student body. You do understand that freedom of speech does not mean you are free from the consequences of what you have said.
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koods said: People are entitled to their own opinions, not their own facts. The symbolism of a noose on a tree is common knowledge. It is part of the American experience and anyone with a proper eduction should be well aware of this historical fact. You need to pick up a history book - and try to not ignore the parts you dont like.
Maybe you should take your own advice.
I checked out yout posts...all you do is troll.....does it make you feel good? I can't imagine the kind of loser you are when you turn off your cpu (IF YOU EVER DO TURN IT OFF)....get a life troll
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Re: Student banned for displaying a noose [Re: koods] 1
#21502552 - 04/04/15 01:55 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: I don't know if you've noticed, but universities get to choose who gets to attend their institution. I guess they didn't want racists in their student body. You do understand that freedom of speech does not mean you are free from the consequences of what you have said.
You are the one who just told us a few posts back that a symbol is not speech. "racist" is just a pc term meaning anyone who does not toe the line of pc permitted thought. Ultra leftists and universities in particular are very racist in the classical definition because they permit or punish based on the race of the person. If a black person had left a noose, there would not be all this uproar. He/she would get a warning like "we can't let you do this because what if white people started doing it?"
I suppose if you saw an art exhibition with a noose in it you would have a conniption about that too? Unless the artist was black and explained it was a protest against racism in which case you would be all "that's cool bro"
Saying its an accepted fact when something is only accepted by the far left is false
The kidwiththeface is a thoughtful poster who contributes a lot. As usual, the left tries to silence those who don't agree with it. Its been a hallmark of the left going back to stalin, mao, castro, etc.
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Re: Student banned for displaying a noose [Re: 420_shroomer] 1
#21502557 - 04/04/15 01:56 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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420_shroomer, eh?
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Re: Student banned for displaying a noose [Re: Stonehenge]
#21502608 - 04/04/15 02:08 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: I don't know if you've noticed, but universities get to choose who gets to attend their institution. I guess they didn't want racists in their student body. You do understand that freedom of speech does not mean you are free from the consequences of what you have said.
You are the one who just told us a few posts back that a symbol is not speech. "racist" is just a pc term meaning anyone who does not toe the line of pc permitted thought. Ultra leftists and universities in particular are very racist in the classical definition because they permit or punish based on the race of the person. If a black person had left a noose, there would not be all this uproar. He/she would get a warning like "we can't let you do this because what if white people started doing it?"
I suppose if you saw an art exhibition with a noose in it you would have a conniption about that too? Unless the artist was black and explained it was a protest against racism in which case you would be all "that's cool bro"
Saying its an accepted fact when something is only accepted by the far left is false
The kidwiththeface is a thoughtful poster who contributes a lot. As usual, the left tries to silence those who don't agree with it. Its been a hallmark of the left going back to stalin, mao, castro, etc.
No, I did not say a symbol is not speech. I said a symbol is not speech unless there is an understanding of what it represents. Just like a word has no real meaning if everyone defines it differently. The noose has a definition and you can't just assert your own.
This is an accepted fact, that some people want to deny the history of this country does not change it.
I didn't think you get context and nuance, it's all black and white to you.
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Re: Student banned for displaying a noose [Re: koods]
#21502617 - 04/04/15 02:10 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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And I'm not silencing anyone, I am simply stating the historical facts. You are free to continue posting your ignorant, uneducated opinion.
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Re: Student banned for displaying a noose [Re: koods]
#21502641 - 04/04/15 02:16 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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What if that noose was just a noose?
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Re: Student banned for displaying a noose [Re: Patlal]
#21502682 - 04/04/15 02:25 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Patlal said: What if that noose was just a noose?

Not to koods, everything is in black and white, either fine or totally forbidden.
koods >No, I did not say a symbol is not speech. I said a symbol is not speech unless there is an understanding of what it represents. Just like a word has no real meaning if everyone defines it differently. The noose has a definition and you can't just assert your own.
So your definition and that of your likeminded peers is the only one that counts? Typical leftist thinking, if you can call it thinking.
Here is what google says the definition is. No doubt your personal bias is a better source
noun
noun: noose; plural noun: nooses
1. a loop with a running knot, tightening as the rope or wire is pulled and typically used to hang people or trap animals.
•death by hanging. noun: the noose
•a difficult situation regarded as a restraint or bond. noun: the noose
"the West is exploring ways to tighten the economic noose"
verb
verb: noose; 3rd person present: nooses; past tense: noosed; past participle: noosed; gerund or present participle: noosing
1. put a noose on (someone). "she was noosed and hooded, then strangled by the executioner"
•catch (an animal) with a noose. •form (a rope) into a noose.
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Re: Student banned for displaying a noose [Re: Stonehenge]
#21502691 - 04/04/15 02:27 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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What if that noose does in fact represent racism?
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Re: Student banned for displaying a noose [Re: Patlal]
#21502714 - 04/04/15 02:33 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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The definition if the word "noose" is not the symbolic meaning of an actual noose this context. Just like a typical right winger, if you don't like what the facts say, you make up your own. It's pathetic.
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Re: Student banned for displaying a noose [Re: Patlal]
#21502718 - 04/04/15 02:34 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Patlal said: What if that noose does in fact represent racism?

Who cares? He expressed his opinion nonviolently.
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Re: Student banned for displaying a noose [Re: Webster10]
#21502721 - 04/04/15 02:35 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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What if the guy wanted to hang himself and changed his mind?
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Re: Student banned for displaying a noose [Re: koods]
#21502734 - 04/04/15 02:37 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-shuler-noose-hate-crimes-20141028-story.html
The noose ... became a stand-in for vigilantism, for murder by community, an unveiled threat and a symbol to brandish to keep blacks especially 'in their place.' -
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Re: Student banned for displaying a noose [Re: koods] 1
#21502774 - 04/04/15 02:45 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: I think you are a hopeless case.
Hey cool. Personal attacks against a member that mods single out for unpopular opinions; or copy/pasting articles for discussion and getting his threads locked despite them offering the chance for more intelligent discussion than 90% of this forum.
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Re: Student banned for displaying a noose [Re: Adden] 4
#21502781 - 04/04/15 02:47 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Koods always seems to loose it in these kinds of threads then he resorts to personal attacks.
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Just like a typical right winger, if you don't like what the facts say, you make up your own. It's pathetic.
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Re: Student banned for displaying a noose [Re: 420_shroomer] 1
#21502782 - 04/04/15 02:47 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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ThatKidWithTheFace said:
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koods said: People are entitled to their own opinions, not their own facts. The symbolism of a noose on a tree is common knowledge. It is part of the American experience and anyone with a proper eduction should be well aware of this historical fact. You need to pick up a history book - and try to not ignore the parts you dont like.
Maybe you should take your own advice.
I checked out yout posts...all you do is troll.....does it make you feel good? I can't imagine the kind of loser you are when you turn off your cpu (IF YOU EVER DO TURN IT OFF)....get a life troll
420_unshroomy.
Can't you folks have a discussion without railing on each other? Jeeze even I'm not this pissy. Mostly.
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Re: Student banned for displaying a noose [Re: setb]
#21502790 - 04/04/15 02:49 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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setb said: Koods always seems to loose it in these kinds of threads then he resorts to personal attacks.
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Just like a typical right winger, if you don't like what the facts say, you make up your own. It's pathetic.
Yeah but mods don't call out other mods because it "causes discord among staff" or whatever BS Rose is told to say.
C'mon now guys/koods.
Leave or hide the thread if you believe it may compromise your sensibilities.
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Re: Student banned for displaying a noose [Re: koods] 1
#21502803 - 04/04/15 02:52 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-shuler-noose-hate-crimes-20141028-story.html
The noose ... became a stand-in for vigilantism, for murder by community, an unveiled threat and a symbol to brandish to keep blacks especially 'in their place.' -
What if that wasn't the case in this particular situation?
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