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Offlinelucid
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Obsessionality test...
    #2150032 - 12/01/03 07:03 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

My shrink gave me an Obsessionality test today...
Try this exercise...
Close your eyes and try to think of Camels (or some
object of your choice) continuously...
see how long u can do this without completely forgetting
about Camels (obviously u'll only realize that u've
forgotten to think about it after the fact)...
Post your results here.


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Re: Obsessionality test... [Re: lucid]
    #2150286 - 12/01/03 08:17 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

i have tried this befor only with a candle and a flame and you picture the flame getting bigger and bigger. well as for my results i don't do very well. and yes i got mine from a shrink too......


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Re: Obsessionality test... [Re: lucid]
    #2150307 - 12/01/03 08:27 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Just curious about "why". What's the point? I mean, without even doing it, I know I'm going to stop thinking about a camel and find myself thinking about other things.


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Re: Obsessionality test... [Re: littlejohn747]
    #2150313 - 12/01/03 08:29 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

I ended up exhausting my shrink :crazy:
apparently most people can't focus for more than
a minute or so...
I kept going for over 5 minutes so she had to intervene...
she said she's never encountered someone who could do
that (which is quite disturbing cause I guess that means
I'm extreemely Obsessive).
But she said it probably was because I've been practicing
meditation for so long (but I think she was just trying to
alleviate my concern by saying something positive).


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Re: Obsessionality test... [Re: lucid]
    #2150316 - 12/01/03 08:30 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

I've kinda been thinking about camels all day since then :nut:


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Re: Obsessionality test... [Re: lucid]
    #2150317 - 12/01/03 08:30 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

2 seconds into it, i already started thinkin about sex...is this normal? oh wait, of course, I'm a guy, :smirk: 


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Re: Obsessionality test... [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #2150355 - 12/01/03 08:42 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

SkorpivoMusterion said:
2 seconds into it, i already started thinkin about sex...is this normal? oh wait, of course, I'm a guy, :smirk:   




As long as it's not sex involving Camels you're fine :grin: 


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Re: Obsessionality test... [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #2150358 - 12/01/03 08:43 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

SkorpivoMusterion said:
2 seconds into it, i already started thinkin about sex...is this normal? oh wait, of course, I'm a guy, :smirk:   






You had sexual thoughts while thinking about a camel? :blush: 


***EDIT*** Damnit lucid, you beat me to it.


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I see what everyone is saying. It is so hard to form an opinion when you see both sides so clearly!


Edited by sirreal (12/01/03 08:44 PM)


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Re: Obsessionality test... [Re: lucid]
    #2150517 - 12/01/03 09:44 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Lucid,

To be able to hold an image/thought for allong time without being distracted should be considered a positive not a negative. Because you can do this, is what makes you different from the norm. Look how she said that all the others could only hold an image for a minute or so. Most don't try, is also a reason. The majority of people let their thoughts run all over the place. A few can hold an image for allong time. That is the trick to dreaming. To be able to hold a dream together without it dissolving away. How Lucid are your Dreams, Lucid???


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Re: Obsessionality test... [Re: lucid]
    #2150633 - 12/01/03 10:37 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

So I lay back, and think about camels.

Two hours later, I wake up from a refreshing nap.

Thanks, camels!


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Re: Obsessionality test... [Re: Phluck]
    #2150663 - 12/01/03 10:50 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Concentration


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Re: Obsessionality test... [Re: Phluck]
    #2150671 - 12/01/03 10:51 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

So there's this joke about this army guy stationed out in the dessert. After a week he says to the Arab, hey where can a guy get some ass around this godforsaken oasis and the guy points to his camel. The army guy says nah, thanks anyway. Next week. Two weeks without sex, he asks the guy again where he can get some pussy and the guy points to his camel. Another week, and the guy asks again, and the guys points to his camel, and the army guys says, alright and goes up to it and starts to fuck it in the ass. The Arab says hey what the fuck are you doing to my camel, I mean to ride it into town!


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Re: Obsessionality test... [Re: eve69]
    #2150703 - 12/01/03 11:09 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

How about the picture of the camel on the pack of Camel cigerettes? There's a naked guy standing in the back legs of the camel, with an erection. There's supposed to be a girl on her hands and knees in front of him, but I've never been able to see that picture.


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Re: Obsessionality test... [Re: Frog]
    #2150751 - 12/01/03 11:35 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Yes there is a sort of test...

When he said camels originally did you think of the animal first or the cigerettes?

I thought of the cigerettes.


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Re: Obsessionality test... [Re: medicinebag]
    #2151193 - 12/02/03 09:33 AM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

medicinebag said:
Lucid,

    To be able to hold an image/thought for allong time without being distracted should be considered a positive not a negative.  Because you can do this, is what makes you different from the norm.  Look how she said that all the others could only hold an image for a minute or so.  Most don't try, is also a reason.  The majority of people let their thoughts run all over the place.  A few can hold an image for allong time.  That is the trick to dreaming.  To be able to hold a dream together without it dissolving away.  How Lucid are your Dreams, Lucid??? 




Very lucid...sometimes TOO Lucid :frown:
I have lots of nightmares since I got depressed about 9 months
ago, so it sucks that I even remember my dreams...
Interestingly, I have trouble concentrating on
complicated tasks (such as programming - which is my profession)...
I wish I could use my ability to obsess/focus to my
advantage by applying it to my work...
I think complicated tasks require an ability to focus, and then
let go and move on. I guess I'm lacking the latter part...
I can focus on one thing, but then letting it go and moving on
is hard...


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Re: Obsessionality test... [Re: lucid]
    #2151388 - 12/02/03 11:14 AM (13 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

think complicated tasks require an ability to focus, and then
let go and move on. I guess I'm lacking the latter part...
I can focus on one thing, but then letting it go and moving on
is hard 




There's your attachment-during-meditation theme again.  :wink:

I would take a good look at your shrink because that test is flawed. Like medicinebag said, being able to focus on one thing for a long time is a *good* thing. But like you said, you need to also have the ability to let go. Or in the words of this martial arts book I read, "Sever the edge between before and after." And do it continuously so that you stay in the present moment as much as possible.


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