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Kasumi
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Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D
#21494808 - 04/02/15 11:34 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can duct tape be used inside the glove box to cover the crack in the plastic and also to secure the gloves on the inside of the box? will it harbour any bacteria or can it be sterilised with bleach solution?
Also, is a mini gas blow torch too hot to sterilise a needle, will it melt the metal?
Thank you so much for your help!
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3iRiS9
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: Kasumi]
#21494836 - 04/02/15 11:48 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Search "Still Air Box". Glove boxes are too much work and not necessary.
I use a handheld jewelers butane torch and it's perfect. Definitely won't melt a standard scalpel or needle tip.
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FeedYourMind
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: Kasumi]
#21494840 - 04/02/15 11:51 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wouldn't recomend any tape for a SAB. Just make tyvek sleeves for the arm holes and you're solid. Shit, I barely use gloves any more. Just wash my hands prior to and after.
And it's fine to use a torch, I use the same one I use to dab for my needles. Just make sure it's far away enough and yet still glowing red when you bring it inside the chamber. Let it cool and shake syringe for a couple seconds before nocc'ing anything up.
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Kasumi
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: FeedYourMind]
#21494854 - 04/02/15 11:57 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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glove box has already been constructed, money already spent :s lol but there was a crack when the glove holes were being made, just wanted to make sure that it could be sealed with the duct tape as the crack would let contaminants in the air in.. should be cool?
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Kasumi
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: 3iRiS9]
#21494858 - 04/02/15 11:59 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I will take a look at the still air box but already constructed glove box with crack in it :roll eyes:
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: Kasumi]
#21494863 - 04/02/15 11:59 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can use duck tape, I'd just have the sticky side facing towards the outside of the tub though.
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Kasumi
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: FeedYourMind]
#21494872 - 04/03/15 12:04 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cool, thanks for your reply!
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: Kasumi]
#21494892 - 04/03/15 12:16 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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No problem, let us know how it works for you.
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3iRiS9
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: Kasumi]
#21494980 - 04/03/15 12:51 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kasumi said: I will take a look at the still air box but already constructed glove box with crack in it :roll eyes: 
I did the same thing when I decided to start cultivating. Someone commented about SAB's, so I just took the gloves off.
You could try, but you'll probably be annoyed by it.
One of the main reasons for this, is that the still air box allows flame sterilization outside of the box. A blow torch inside a closed plastic box just sounds like a bad idea, when I realized that I detached the gloves from my box right away.
It wouldn't really be a loss at all, you could just use the gloves without them being attached.
The imperfect seal would cause drafts also, allowing air to stir up inside the box every time you move your hands. That means contaminants could be flying around while you work.
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: Kasumi]
#21494988 - 04/03/15 12:55 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Kasumi said: I will take a look at the still air box but already constructed glove box with crack in it :roll eyes: 
all a SAB is, is a glovebox with out the gloves. All you need/want are holes. (what I am saying is take the gloves off your box)
As for your crack problem, you can use duct tape. but it would look more flush if you used some clear silicone.
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: ganjfather]
#21494994 - 04/03/15 12:58 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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My entire paragraph in one short sentence.
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Kasumi
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: 3iRiS9]
#21495009 - 04/03/15 01:06 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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But won't the gaps in-between the section of my arms and the holes of the box let the contaminants flow in? if i tape the crack and cover it fully will this still let in a draft or an imperfect seal? The box is really large, like 50 litres so the blow torch might be cool but you are right, having to blow torch the needle on the outside and then try to fit the gloves on in time etc etc is kinda awkward
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: 3iRiS9]
#21495010 - 04/03/15 01:06 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
3iRiS9 said:


My entire paragraph in one short sentence. 
ha my bad. I'm the kinda guy who sees more than two sentences and says "aint nobody got for that"
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Kasumi
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: ganjfather]
#21495014 - 04/03/15 01:08 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have a clear silicone but is a lil more mucky and might drop off compared to the duct tape which is quickly and easily applied
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: Kasumi]
#21495022 - 04/03/15 01:13 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kasumi said: I have a clear silicone but is a lil more mucky and might drop off compared to the duct tape which is quickly and easily applied 
You... can't.... fill... a crack... with silicon......?

Duct tape will work...
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Kasumi
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: ganjfather]
#21495024 - 04/03/15 01:15 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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no i can i can, i am just very economic with my effort and energy lol
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: Kasumi]
#21495049 - 04/03/15 01:32 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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You could construct your holes to fit wide mouth jar rings and for your gloves around that and stick in the hole... How I did mine and worked like a charm. Sterilized my tools wrapped in tin foil so I didn't have to flame sterilize, did multiple plates off of one sterilization with around a 1% contam rate if that
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Kasumi
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: nobody83]
#21495073 - 04/03/15 01:45 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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cool already built and stuck on the gloves on the inside, could remove them I guess, because I have no idea how to open up the box lid to place the jars inside without infecting the sab again lol could cut a lil opening lid at the top with a hot knife..
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: Kasumi]
#21495113 - 04/03/15 02:17 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Build a proper still air box and abandon this crazy glove box idea. You'll never get it all sterile AND get your stuff in there if that's what you're trying to do. If you're having a hard time figuring out how to do those things, it's because you really can't, in practical cases.
Also bleach doesn't sterilize anything, it sanitizes, so let go of that notion as well. Heat is the only method we have to sterilize besides some chemicals or UV shit that you really don't want to be near.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771
I use one the same size as this. 108qt. Any smaller and you're going to have a hard time, and it'll be less effective. If yours is only 25 liters (~24-26qt) you're gonna have a bad time indeed. I don't even know what you plan to do in a box that small.
I do my work in this with almost no contamination unless I cut other corners in my procedure or outright make a mistake.

I use it with the towel under it like SBJ's tek describes.
You're supposed to turn off all your air conditioning and fans for at least half an hour before you start working, I do about an hour of no air movement in the entire house before I go work in the still air box, which by then has had all the airborne shit that was in there originally stuck to the sides or the wet towel where it won't kick around anymore.
That's gorilla tape that I siliconed over, by the way, since you were asking about tape. It's waterproof because of the silicone, so I don't have any concerns about spraying it with alcohol or bleach or whatever.
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Kasumi
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Re: Duct tape and blow torch? any advice asap please! :D [Re: Inocuole]
#21495128 - 04/03/15 02:41 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wanted to make an opening at the top of the box which i could reseal with duct tape lol, and spray the inside of it with bleach and wipe everything inside of it with rubbing alcohol.. I have siliconed around the glove rings and they are big enough for me to get my arms through and not the jars, plastic has already cracked around the arms so i don't think it would be a good idea to cut into it to make a bigger hole .. although i could do that i guess.. but liked the gloves inside ..I have two sheets of plexi glass, was going to lay one on the bottom..
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