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Re: What's new with Papaver? [Re: BigHeart]
#21475899 - 03/29/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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BigHeart said: Since we're talking poppies, which varieties would be best to blend into a normal flower bed without attracting attention?
Grow more poppies in with them of the non psychoactive type. Papaver rhoeas,Papaver orintale,heck even California poppies,although they are not true poppies,but you get the picture
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I grew with some of the high end McCormics last year and the plants themselves were super virile , almost to the point of being invasive. However , the arrangements made with them were very weak. I say high end because I can't remember exactly what the bottle said on it but it was something to the effect of a better quality seed. Maybe I would have done better with the regular seeds. The petals were of a lavender color and the latex was pink. The pods were very large and very weak.
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Re: What's new with Papaver? [Re: Urb]
#21476994 - 03/29/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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You could do a mix of hens and chicks (usually red, showy pods) danish flag (red and white) and some straight white with purple throat gigs and maybe some paeoniflorum too, surround them with whatever other kind of flowers you want to, other poppies as said earlier, maybe some cornflowers or nasturtiums. If you've got a big flower bed with all kinds of flowers that is well put together with all kinds of nice non-active plants in front and a thick orderly row of really showy looking somniferum, it's not going to look very suspicious. I'd still do it out of sight from the neighbors though, but then again I can't keep from lancing my pods, I way prefer smoking O to drinking tea.
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Good ideas guys, thanks! So basically just put a mix of inactive poppies and other flowers but just have some of the somniferum mixed in.
OK, one last question if you guys don't mind : What are currently considered the top varieties for alkaloid content?
I know there are lots of older threads that discuss varieties but progress never stops and even as recently as the late 90's most people didn't even know that poppies were Schedule II and easy to propagate and harvest, so I am interested in your opinions as to what's the current best one or two varieties to clandestinely plant?
(Not going to actually eat or harvest any of the pods, I get random UA's at work all the time and don't actually like opiates anyways)
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Re: What's new with Papaver? [Re: BigHeart]
#21480713 - 03/30/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do them in rows, your poppies will shade out other plants with their height and you want to thin them out so sowing them all together will make it hard to tell which are active poppies are which aren't.
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There are active poppies besides somniferum like california, prickly, ect.
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Re: What's new with Papaver? [Re: ellomello]
#21482478 - 03/31/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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ellomello said: There are active poppies besides somniferum like california, prickly, ect.
California is one of those bunk plants like coleus,dagga,etc. You'll not get a buzz form any of those. Prickly,is another story. Papaver bracteatum contins morphine,but in doses so low,you'd be better off going for the real deal. They are,however,strikingly beautiful flowers,and I would love to get some. Also don't forget about the Alpine poppy,stunning!!!
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Re: What's new with Papaver? [Re: ellomello]
#21482713 - 03/31/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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ellomello said: There are active poppies besides somniferum like california, prickly, ect.
My point is that if you're growing with the intention of harvesting opium, you want to make sure that you actually have p. somniferum in the ground. If you sow a mixed bed, thinning may be difficult in terms of distinguishing which species the seedlings you're plucking belong to, and that the p. som. are much taller plants and will likely shade out the other flowers in the bed if they aren't placed in an orderly fashion. You want the short plants up front, then medium, then tall. Just sayin.
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Re: What's new with Papaver? [Re: ellomello]
#21482994 - 03/31/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is there any danger of hybridizing when you grow other species in a mixed bed with p. somniferum?
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