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Just need some moral support - day 8 in GH and no pins :(
    #21482148 - 03/31/15 03:46 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Okay, so I'm not the world's calmest person (very bad for this hobby, I know). This is my first attempt at bulk and I'm anxious to the point of insomnia!

I spawned B+ (in BRF jars) to coir/verm/worm casts. Two 30 litre tubs. Gave them 10 days to colonise, which seemed fine. Then into the GH. I've really been careful with the GH: a big coolmist, an ultrasonic and an automated humidity controller. There are also two fans, one which runs all the time and the other, big one, runs 15 mins every two hours. RH is steady at 96-99% (depending on which of my three hygrometers I believe). Temp is steady at 74.Oh, and 6500k light is on 12/12.

They've been in the GH for 8 days and although I can see knots they haven't changed in about three days.

I've attached the best pics I could manage. Am I going to see some pins? I can't think of anything else I can do!

Thanks, peeps!

PS: Ignore the chasm in the middle - I realised the tubs aren't rigid enough and the substrate split when I moved it. I've bought new tubs for next time.


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Re: Just need some moral support - day 8 in GH and no pins :( [Re: shroomfiend1936]
    #21482153 - 03/31/15 03:48 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

A properly dialed in monotub does not need any misting or other atention until the first flush. Just sit back and relax.


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Re: Just need some moral support - day 8 in GH and no pins :( [Re: shroomfiend1936]
    #21482155 - 03/31/15 03:49 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

No need to worry. That primordia is looking good. You should have a sea of pins in a couple days.

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Re: Just need some moral support - day 8 in GH and no pins :( [Re: shroomfiend1936]
    #21482160 - 03/31/15 03:51 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

looks a bit dry to me.
u want to see beads of moisture across the surface, looks like there are some beads around the edges on the container and liner.
may want to hand mist a few times a day.

cubes can tolerate a lot of c02, so maybe cut down on the fans.  or at least, get them only pulling/pushing air in the GH, to act as a recirc for the humidified air.


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Re: Just need some moral support - day 8 in GH and no pins :( [Re: blindingleaf]
    #21482170 - 03/31/15 03:59 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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blindingleaf said:
looks a bit dry to me.
u want to see beads of moisture across the surface, looks like there are some beads around the edges on the container and liner.
may want to hand mist a few times a day.

cubes can tolerate a lot of c02, so maybe cut down on the fans.  or at least, get them only pulling/pushing air in the GH, to act as a recirc for the humidified air.



Agreed. I would also recommend lightly misting your trays once or twice a day.

I have the same setup as you and even maintaining around 95-99% humidity with constant circulating air in the room, my subs tend to slowly dry out and need to be misted usually about once a day. After a manual misting and in the beginning stages of primordia and hyphal knots, I like to run a separate fan pointed at the bottom of my greenhouse with the zippers unzipped about a foot to cause quicker evaporation and promote pin growth.

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Re: Just need some moral support - day 8 in GH and no pins :( [Re: Albertheisenhouer]
    #21482238 - 03/31/15 04:59 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks guys. Didn't expect such nice (and fast) replies :smile:

I, too, have wondered about the dryness and I did lightly mist them earlier. Thing is, I've spent feck knows how many hours fiddling with the humidity. If I adjust the on/off levels on the controller just one degree higher I get pooling water on the substrate within minutes. I poked a (very clean) moisture tester in the substrate yesterday and it said 70%, which is pretty much what it was when I originally made the substrate. Isn't 70% pretty much ideal? Anyhoo, I will mist a little.

This is my third attempt at cultivation. My first, ten years ago, was a "grow kit". I think I got about 3 dry grams :mad2: My 2nd effort, three years ago, was in a SGFC. I thought I'd done that by the book but my cakes just sat there, dried out and never produced a single fruit. Then they turned green, as did I.

This time I've really gone to town. Spent far too much money but I've done everything as much "by the book" as I possibly can. if this fails I'll just accept the 'shroom gods hate me:rolleyes:

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Re: Just need some moral support - day 8 in GH and no pins :( [Re: shroomfiend1936]
    #21482254 - 03/31/15 05:15 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

if u are using grains, and making ur own spawn, check out mono tubs.  very easy.

post a pic of ur set up.
70% moisture is fine.  but moisture testers are general pretty bad.

think about casing.  its the only way i ever got good results in my GH when i had it set up


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Re: Just need some moral support - day 8 in GH and no pins :( [Re: blindingleaf]
    #21482298 - 03/31/15 06:25 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, blindingleaf, that's interesting. I debated myself for ever about whether or not to case but the balance of opinion seemed to be that casing isn't necessary with B+ on coir/verm. I wish now I'd cased my second tub (which is sitting on another shelf in the GH) just to see what happened.

I have another 40 half-litre jars of BRF which need another ten days or so. I think I'll try casing next time. Part of me wants to give up but another part is determined to get it right. I do tend to over-think everything in life and I'm not sure that's helping. I see so many peeps on the shroomery who do the whole grow stoned or drunk but they seem to get great results :rolleyes:

It's funny how so many people have problems in the early stages but mine seem to go wrong at the end!

That said, I'm on day 8 in the GH and I can see I have tons of knots. I just wish the little buggers would pin :confused:

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Re: Just need some moral support - day 8 in GH and no pins :( [Re: blindingleaf] * 1
    #21482346 - 03/31/15 06:59 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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