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Smoked harmala.
    #2148050 - 11/30/03 11:56 PM (14 years, 19 days ago)

Has anybody tried smoking rue by itself, or using it by itself in ohter ways?


What about smoking it while using other drugs?

What would happen if someone were already under the influence of LSD or psilocybin, and smoked a bowl of harmala, or harmala extract?

Does harmala cause nausea when smoked?


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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2148144 - 12/01/03 12:52 AM (14 years, 19 days ago)

i've smoked extract already.
feels lightheaded, but it's no big deal by itself.
no nausea.


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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: felixhigh]
    #2148472 - 12/01/03 03:47 AM (14 years, 19 days ago)

What would happen if you did it while you were trippin' on acid or shroomzzzzz tho?


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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2148494 - 12/01/03 04:01 AM (14 years, 19 days ago)

well its hard to say i think it would be already metoblized adn runign its course. i dont think it will do much if anything. im nto positive know my experience with maois is very limited


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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2148598 - 12/01/03 06:47 AM (14 years, 19 days ago)

there is plenty of information regarding rue combos Use the Shroomery search engine or check out erowid: http://www.erowid.org/plants/syrian_rue/   


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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: Xochitl]
    #2149465 - 12/01/03 03:26 PM (14 years, 19 days ago)

I don't think any of the combos listed, atleast in my travels across the net, were as specific as B_H's questions, I haven't seen reports of smoking rue while already intoxicated on another substance... i'd probably try it though..


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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: neuro]
    #2149501 - 12/01/03 03:35 PM (14 years, 19 days ago)

I've heard "Dude, drink orange juice dude, It'll make you trio harder dude."

It'd be nice if there were something that actually worked. Would you have to fast, or alter your diet if you were only smoking harmala and not eating it?


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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2149528 - 12/01/03 03:44 PM (14 years, 19 days ago)

>>I've heard "Dude, drink orange juice dude, It'll make you trio harder dude."

I've heard that a lot too, I don't think it's credible in the sense that it actually makes you trip harder, perhaps there are some MAOIs in it, but i doubt of any real significance. If anyone has experienced an effect from it i'd venture to say it was mental or drinking the juice stirred up the contents of the stomach and shuffled stuff around leading to some increased absorption.


>>Would you have to fast, or alter your diet if you were only smoking harmala and not eating it?

I would say probably not. Most people only fast when they take things that are potentiated greatly by MAOIs as to not have a negative effect from a lingering maoi dose either from coffee or some other regular thing.


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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: neuro]
    #2149595 - 12/01/03 04:06 PM (14 years, 19 days ago)

well teh white stuff aroudn oranges is some sort of inhibitor. i guess u cant absorb vitamin C if u eat alot of that white stuff on a orange.


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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2149651 - 12/01/03 04:22 PM (14 years, 19 days ago)

I smoked some rue extract last night while trippin on 2c-i and got really light headed, it made the visuals a little stronger as well, it kinda felt like a mild ether buzz or something of that sort, but nothing spectacular. I've smoked it while I wasn't on any drugs as well with minimal effects.


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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: the man]
    #2149656 - 12/01/03 04:24 PM (14 years, 19 days ago)

>>well teh white stuff aroudn oranges is some sort of inhibitor. i guess u cant absorb vitamin C if u eat alot of that white stuff on a orange.

can you cite a reference for this statement?


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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2149734 - 12/01/03 04:57 PM (14 years, 19 days ago)

I have smoke harmala alone and with pot, it definately increases a marijuana high. I would think it has synergistic, but not potentiational(?), effects with most hallucinogens. Dietary concerns are not much of an issue, since the maoi isn't going near your intestine. As long as you're prepared for a possible BP,heart rate, etc. increase, you should be fine. I recently made a very pure extract, but lost a large amount of harmala in all the purification. But I think its worth having a high purity if it's going to be smoked.

edit- I've taken harmala gelcapped and smoked about a dozen times, and never had any sickness, but I always use a decent extract in low to moderate doses. The first time I took harmala orally, I fasted, but I don't get an adverse reaction eating before hand, even half a cheese pizza. I would watch what I ate if I was going for 40mg+.

With good MJ and enough Harmala I got some OEV's at night. But it usually just makes me a lot more stoned.


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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: neuro]
    #2149829 - 12/01/03 05:47 PM (14 years, 19 days ago)

http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemical.jsp?Rec_Id=PC35 this a quasi info site just says its a proton inhibitor or somthing for the other ones i looked at. i dont know much abotu other inhibitors. so i cant prove or diporove. for now it is disprovin in my mind i guess.

it was a doctor who told em this but alot of doctors say alot of stupid things.

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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: neuro]
    #2150502 - 12/01/03 09:38 PM (14 years, 19 days ago)

I wonder if there are any phenethylamines out there that aren't active unless you use an MAOI.

I wonder how dangerous it would be to take calamus and licorice together. I have some calamus, and some licorice on the way.


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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2150727 - 12/01/03 11:23 PM (14 years, 18 days ago)

erm... licorice?


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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #2150731 - 12/01/03 11:27 PM (14 years, 18 days ago)

Apparently licorice contains several MAOIs.


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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2150748 - 12/01/03 11:35 PM (14 years, 18 days ago)

I've smoked some seed coatings after doing an extract on it. I was unprepared to be tripping that hard. I purged and had slight nausea. It was about a joint full of some of the seed coatings. I'm pretty sure that I'm a softhead though with most things.


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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2150774 - 12/01/03 11:49 PM (14 years, 18 days ago)

hey B_H next time u want soem calamus come up here or call me. the stuff grows aroudn here jsut as much as phalaris. and ask the vendor if the calamus is fresh. calamus is useless after the first year. so i read.
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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: the man]
    #2150847 - 12/02/03 12:11 AM (14 years, 18 days ago)

Yeah, the calamus I got is some old crappy stuff. calamus grows in my state, but apparently it isn't all that common. Same with Desmanthus illinoiensis.


Maybe you should just send me some. :smile2:


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Re: Smoked harmala. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2150948 - 12/02/03 12:38 AM (14 years, 18 days ago)

grounds frozen. sorry.  its common just doesnt flower much as  u prob know. to bad its old.

in the spring ill harvest alot. i have a old hippy friend he is sweet. goes to sweat logges adn stuff. when i go with him we always get lots of stuff he gets told teh good spots my teh aboriginals :smile:


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