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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: Supachopped719]
#21465537 - 03/27/15 01:05 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Supachopped719 said: It's not that he over rid a system to lock out the captain. Its a buzzer system like an apartment. You have to buzz and say who you are and the person on the inside buzzes you in. If he was incapacitated he would be unable to buzz anyone in.
Some countries/airlines have planned for this very rare occurrence for years. A pilot steps out for a piss and the other one dies or becomes otherwise incapacitated the plane will crash. So a lot have the policy of having two people always in the cockpit. If a pilot leaves, a deadheading pilot (not a hippie, but a pilot being flown to a job) or flight attendant steps into his place.
How do you know what his breathing was like? Because it was silent? What if he was choking?
That particular plane is equipped with a system that enables people from outside the cockpit to obtain an emergency code to open the door in case the flight crew is incapacitated, it also has an override system to prevent people from obtaining the code if someone in the cockpit overrides it.
We know what his breathing was like because it's heard on the voice recorder. Silent doesn't mean the cockpit was devoid of noise, it means he said nothing and there were no sounds of any abnormal noise, such as choking, or him hitting his head.
The voice recorders DO pick up breathing btw. It's an indicator of stress levels and can be a vital clue in determining what happened in a crash.
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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: Supachopped719]
#21465550 - 03/27/15 01:10 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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We know that the copilot deliberately crashed the plane because he did two things - set the autopilot to 100 feet and manually overrode the door code that would have let the pilot in after 30 seconds.
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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#21465689 - 03/27/15 01:52 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shroomslip said:
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Supachopped719 said: It's not that he over rid a system to lock out the captain. Its a buzzer system like an apartment. You have to buzz and say who you are and the person on the inside buzzes you in. If he was incapacitated he would be unable to buzz anyone in.
Some countries/airlines have planned for this very rare occurrence for years. A pilot steps out for a piss and the other one dies or becomes otherwise incapacitated the plane will crash. So a lot have the policy of having two people always in the cockpit. If a pilot leaves, a deadheading pilot (not a hippie, but a pilot being flown to a job) or flight attendant steps into his place.
How do you know what his breathing was like? Because it was silent? What if he was choking?
That particular plane is equipped with a system that enables people from outside the cockpit to obtain an emergency code to open the door in case the flight crew is incapacitated, it also has an override system to prevent people from obtaining the code if someone in the cockpit overrides it.
We know what his breathing was like because it's heard on the voice recorder. Silent doesn't mean the cockpit was devoid of noise, it means he said nothing and there were no sounds of any abnormal noise, such as choking, or him hitting his head.
The voice recorders DO pick up breathing btw. It's an indicator of stress levels and can be a vital clue in determining what happened in a crash.
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Alan Rockefeller said: We know that the copilot deliberately crashed the plane because he did two things - set the autopilot to 100 feet and manually overrode the door code that would have let the pilot in after 30 seconds.
Damn. I did not know that. I was just giving the guy the benefit of the doubt, some time people get sick at really bad times.
All this technology and all these safeguards, and there is still nothing that stopped this from happening. I never thought about this in relation to that other missing plane. A pilot taking down the plane in silence...
What if this becomes some kind of sick trend with pilots, their version of going postal!! One guy does it, and another copies. What if all these normal pilots with excellent records start snapping one by one and planes start dropping out of the sky every few months?
Sorry if I seem a lil paranoid, I'm not feeling good and called in sick, been Dabbin all day and I'm super baked.
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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: Supachopped719]
#21465736 - 03/27/15 02:04 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Supachopped719 said: All this technology and all these safeguards, and there is still nothing that stopped this from happening. I never thought about this in relation to that other missing plane. A pilot taking down the plane in silence...
MH370 could have been suicicde, but I think it is more likely that something like what happened to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522 occurred. In that incident, a maintenance guy forgot to flip a switch back to auto and everyone passed out in the plane. Jets were scrambled and they were able to see the pilots unconcious, and were unable to do anything about it.
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What if this becomes some kind of sick trend with pilots, their version of going postal!! One guy does it, and another copies. What if all these normal pilots with excellent records start snapping one by one and planes start dropping out of the sky every few months?
Hopefully not - this copilot did have a history of depression though. It is hard to ban pilots with depression though - if we did that, seeking mental help would be a career ending decision.
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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#21466143 - 03/27/15 04:01 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think the co-pilot was in forced sleep. Jr. Kennedy died in same way. That sleep wave was irresistable - according to my experience. read "mind control sleep wave" at:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21035846/fpart/2#21035846
Written on 3/27/2015. (today)
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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: katsung47] 2
#21466941 - 03/27/15 06:28 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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doesn't explain why he deliberately changed the autopilot to nosedive into the ground
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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: 404]
#21467336 - 03/27/15 07:14 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: 404]
#21467347 - 03/27/15 07:16 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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404 said: doesn't explain why he deliberately changed the autopilot to nosedive into the ground
Not that I support these ideas, but what he's talking about is a well discussed theory that exists because of what I've been explaining to you. Without a pilot there, it's relatively easy to manipulate a planes course. It's been said they did this same thing to Kennedy Jr's plane like he mentioned, and a lot of people have theorized that our government gassed everyone on the 9/11 planes and did it.
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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: Rustifer] 3
#21467546 - 03/27/15 08:02 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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We can't even keep a private email sever secret . This government blows at shit like that. I very highly doubt that they would be able to pull 9/11 off without a shit ton of people finding out.
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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: 404] 2
#21467705 - 03/27/15 08:48 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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404 said: doesn't explain why he deliberately changed the autopilot to nosedive into the ground
He didn't nose dive. It was a relatively normal decent into the side of a mountain.
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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: koods] 1
#21467937 - 03/27/15 09:33 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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meh, he changed the course deliberately though, right? that's all i was trying to point out.
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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: 404]
#21468109 - 03/27/15 10:00 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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404 said: meh, he changed the course deliberately though, right? that's all i was trying to point out.
Yes, absolutely. The black box records this. Some of the actual data extracted from the box was posted on reddit.
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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#21468277 - 03/27/15 10:21 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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the fuck is wrong with people?
i saw this shit pop up on my news app today and was to busy to follow it.
is it just me or does it seem like plane incidences are on the increase in the last few years?
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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: rackem]
#21468510 - 03/27/15 11:19 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah it's been a bad year for aviation it seems like.
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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: Alan Rockefeller] 1
#21468588 - 03/27/15 11:38 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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that's pretty crazy. speaking of reddit, the world news section just featured two more articles about the plane crash, that the co-pilot was hiding an illness and that the pilot used an axe on the door.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/reports-desperate-pilot-used-ax-on-locked-cockpit-door-of-doomed-plane/2015/03/27/d89a10a2-d492-11e4-ab77-9646eea6a4c7_story.html axe ->> door http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32087203 illness
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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: 404]
#21515731 - 04/07/15 04:18 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Germanwings airliner crash was a plot (3/29/2015)
I think Germanwings airline crash was similar to recent airplane accidents – MH370, MH17. It was done by a big black hand. The purpose is to intimidate German to join war against Russia in Ukraine. France was warned too – that was Paris Hebdo “terror attack”. Now it’s German’s turn.
In disappearance case of MH370, I allege they used Uninterruptible autopilot system. (see #825, 826, 830, 832, 835, 851) In this case, they used EM sleep wave.
Co-pilot Lubitz was in forced asleep and couldn’t react to any outside world’s noise.
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Who was Andreas Lubitz, Germanwings co-pilot blamed for crash?
By Diana Magnay, Ashley Fantz and Catherine E. Shoichet, CNN , Fri March 27, 2015
The only sound the recorder picked up from Lubitz as the Airbus A320 went down, Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin said, was the co-pilot's steady breathing.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/26/europe/germanwings-plane-crash-pilots/
I had a lot of experience with that mandated sleep wave. It was a “sudden, irresistible sleepiness”. I couldn’t wake up even if there was a severe headache. (Headache was caused by a separate EM microwave ray shooting, sleep wave only force people to go asleep) I wrote about this 13 years ago. See “12. Mind control EM sleep wave (1)” to # 16. http://katsung.forumotion.com/t4-em-sleep-wave#77
“Steady breathing” may well explain Rubitz was in deep sleep. Air-controller’s communication, knock at cabinet door, passengers’ scream, none could interrupt him. As for the locked door, if someone could install sleep device in cockpit, they could do similar work as well.
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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: katsung47]
#21515742 - 04/07/15 04:20 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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You think the same group orchestrated the germanwings crash and the charlie hebdo terrorist attack? 
And who's "big black hand" is this?
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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: Webster10]
#21515755 - 04/07/15 04:22 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Webster10 said: You think the same group orchestrated the germanwings crash and the charlie hebdo terrorist attack? 
And who's "big black hand" is this?
Obama's of course (cause he's black lol)
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Re: co-pilot intentionally crashes germanwings airliner [Re: plambe]
#21515764 - 04/07/15 04:24 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ah, I didn't catch that reference. It's safe to say that katsung is a tinfoil wearer.
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